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Katzenstreu
Red Pill


Joined: Apr 06, 2007
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Save always as "Version" ...

Hello,

i want that NeoOffice saves automaticly, also at autosaves, as versions. So i could go back to every point of time.
Can i do so? I don't want to save only as version, if i close NeoOffice.

Best regards,
Tim
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MacRat
Sake Horner
Sake Horner


Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 364
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Save always as "Version" ...

Buy Leopard in October.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html
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mat
Pure-blooded Human


Joined: Oct 15, 2005
Posts: 35

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Save always as "Version" ...

MacRat wrote:
Buy Leopard in October.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html



That wont solve this problem, since TimeMachine will make a backup at defined times and not every time a file changes.
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pluby
The Architect
The Architect


Joined: Jun 16, 2003
Posts: 11949

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject:

What you are really looking for is a version control system. Personally, I use CVS for shared files (e.g. NeoOffice source files) and RCS for local files. Both of these tools are bundled with Mac OS X and are well documented.

These tools are pretty, but I mention them because integrating a version control system into NeoOffice is not a trivial task and would require significant changes to the user interface since the Mac OS X native file dialogs do not have any concept of version control systems.

Patrick
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SteveRead
Operator


Joined: Jan 14, 2007
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Versions

There is a program called Versomatic, which does what you are asking for, although it costs around $40.
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yoxi
Cipher


Joined: Sep 07, 2004
Posts: 1799
Location: Dawlish, Devon

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject:

There's also an OpenOffice extension called OOoVSN that does version control, it may be the very thing you're looking for (if NeoOffice can run it - I confess I'm not clear what's the current status of extension support in NeoOffice, and it probably depends on the extension itself).

- padmavyuha
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LemonAid
The Anomaly


Joined: Nov 21, 2005
Posts: 1285
Location: Witless Protection Program

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject:

OOsSVN (correct name, SVN is short for Subversion).

Subversion is an Open Source Software Version Control System ( replacement for CVS).
This is growing OSS and has a large development community. and Yes, There is a Mac/Windows/Linux/etc versions available. http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html

There is so MUCH information that I will refer you to the following URL links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion_%28software%29
Quote:
Subversion is also finding adoption in the corporate world. In the report “The Forrester Wave™: Software Change and Configuration Management, Q2 2007”, Subversion was recognized as the sole leader in the Standalone Software Configuration Management (SCM) category and strong performer in the Software Configuration and Change Management (SCCM) category.
Lots of Information available ...

http://subversion.com/

http://www.subversion.com/

At Work we are changing over to Subversion (VCS) and Trac (bug tracking system, with integrated Wiki).
These are GREAT FREE Applications and worth looking at for future development projects.

Philip ( Works in DM and SCM and like Subversion on Windows
... almost as much as using NeoOffice on the Mac! Wink )

\. Sorry I have been busy on other projects / business matters ;-{
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yoxi
Cipher


Joined: Sep 07, 2004
Posts: 1799
Location: Dawlish, Devon

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject:

Oops, yes, OOoSVN, not OOoVSN - or OOsSVN (we're both guilty of slips of the keyboard, eh? Smile )
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Katzenstreu
Red Pill


Joined: Apr 06, 2007
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject:

Hello. Thanks guys!

Yes, i searched for Versomatic or a similar program.
But ist's trailware. I would like to pay nothing Wink.

I installed Subversion 1.4.4 Universal.dmg. Then i restarted my mac. I don't know where it's installed an how i can start this program.

Can you help me? Thanks!

Greetings,
Tim Smile
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Samwise
Captain Naiobi


Joined: Apr 25, 2006
Posts: 2315
Location: Montpellier, France

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject:

Subversion is a command-line application, you you can't start it like other Mac OS X applications.

First, if you're using an Intel-based Mac, you should install the second Subversion release (labeled Subversion 1.4.4-2 Universal.dmg):

http://downloads.open.collab.net/binaries.html

openCollabNet wrote:
Note: this is the second build of Subversion 1.4.4 for Mac OS X from the SVNbinaries community. It contains a bug fix for Intel-based Mac PCs.


Then, open the Terminal application (found in /Applications/Utilities), type or copy/paste the following command and press return:

Code:
/usr/local/bin/svn --version


Terminal should output something like this:

Code:
svn, version 1.4.4 (r25188)
   compiled Jun 15 2007, 09:34:00

Copyright (C) 2000-2006 CollabNet.
Subversion is open source software, see http://subversion.tigris.org/
This product includes software developed by CollabNet (http://www.Collab.Net/).

The following repository access (RA) modules are available:

* ra_dav : Module for accessing a repository via WebDAV (DeltaV) protocol.
  - handles 'http' scheme
  - handles 'https' scheme
* ra_svn : Module for accessing a repository using the svn network protocol.
  - handles 'svn' scheme
* ra_local : Module for accessing a repository on local disk.
  - handles 'file' scheme


If it does, then Subversion is installed and should be ready for use by OOoSVN. If I am not mistaken, OOoSVN should take care of setting up the repository for you (so you won't have to deal with Subversion yourself).
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Katzenstreu
Red Pill


Joined: Apr 06, 2007
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject:

Thanks! Now I've installed both.
In the menue above the NeoOffice buttonline I've a new field.
There is now SVN. And there are submenues. But the don't work. Nothing happen, if I klick on them. Do you know why?

Greetings,
Tim Wink
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Samwise
Captain Naiobi


Joined: Apr 25, 2006
Posts: 2315
Location: Montpellier, France

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject:

Katzenstreu wrote:
Thanks! Now I've installed both.
In the menue above the NeoOffice buttonline I've a new field.
There is now SVN. And there are submenues. But the don't work. Nothing happen, if I klick on them. Do you know why?

Greetings,
Tim Wink


No. I may give it a try later though.
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edh
Blue Pill


Joined: Aug 23, 2007
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject:

First I should introduce myself, I am the author of the OOoSVN extension, thanks for talking about it. I stumbled across this thread by a google search and thought I should drop in to answer any questions.

OOoSVN does work on a Mac. I personally haven't tried it but I've been told by several sources that it works. It's not that it was specifically designed for Mac at all, it's just that it shows that underneath, OSX is still a Unix like system. Now if only Windows was too... There is no Windows support as yet.

Katzenstreu wrote:
But the don't work. Nothing happen, if I klick on them. Do you know why?


There was a bad installation bug in the previous released version, I have now fixed this so 0.3.8 may work better for you.
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Katzenstreu
Red Pill


Joined: Apr 06, 2007
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject:

Hello edh!

Thank you for registering here ant for developing a new version.
It was my fault, I don*t installed the zip-archiv. I installed three of your documents.

Now the makro runs, but with problems. It can't create the dir in /tim/.ooosvn.

I can't make such a dir, although.

I would like first to see all directoys and data of my Mac. Then i would like have the permission to make this dir.

Best Regards,
Tim Wink
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Samwise
Captain Naiobi


Joined: Apr 25, 2006
Posts: 2315
Location: Montpellier, France

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject:

Kastrenzeu, have you ever used Terminal? You should be able to create the directory with it, if you can't do it with the Finder.

I still haven't been able to test OOoSVN, so I can't tell you whether I'll encounter the same issue. I may be able to do it this weekend (hopefully).

edh wrote:
OOoSVN does work on a Mac. I personally haven't tried it but I've been told by several sources that it works. It's not that it was specifically designed for Mac at all, it's just that it shows that underneath, OSX is still a Unix like system.


Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" (to be released in October) even conforms to version 3 of the Single UNIX Specification Smile
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