Menus slooow to respond again, Neo 1.2a + patches 4, 5, &

kevmck · Agent Joined: Aug 20, 2003 Posts: 19

A quick search on Bugzilla didn't pull up any open entries that appear to match (hope I did the search correctly!), so I'm posting a query here first to see if anyone else has noticed this effect.

I generally leave NeoJ running all the time for quicker access throughout the day. Over time, though, there seems to be a very noticeable delay getting the menus to respond. By late in the day it can sometimes take 30-40 seconds before a menu will respond to a click. This effect only seems to kick in after NeoJ has been running for some time. I've not see any other contributors to this effect.

Running OS 10.4.3, 1.33 GHz G4 Powerbook w/ 1.25 GB RAM. NeoJ 1.2a w/ patch 6. No haxies of any sort and only Gmail notifier added to the standard menu bar applications. Number of other running applications doesn't seem to be a contributor either.

- Kevin

OPENSTEP · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:00 pm Post subject:

Quick question...are you finding the menus are slow to respond late in the day for the first time you're accessing NeoJ from the morning? NeoJ loves memory, and if you've been using the machine for long periods of time chances are that the Neo code has been swapped out by the end of the day to give priority to other applications. If you're encountering a slowdown that's persistent after, say, 5 minutes, then it probably is a bug in Neo. If it's under that, then chances are you're just swapping and the delay would be the same as with any other memory hungry app (e.g. XCode).

ed

kevmck · Agent Joined: Aug 20, 2003 Posts: 19

Hi Ed,

It only occurs when NeoJ has been running for some time. After quitting and restarting, the menus are nice and snappy. However, I don't think it's just memory swapping. After bringing NeoJ back to the front or opening a document, everything else about it responds quickly as normal, but the menus are in molasses (treacle) mode.

One other variable I haven't tested is if leaving it running while my laptop gets put to sleep might contribute to the problem, in other words it may be a wake-from-sleep slow down. I'll keep an eye on that and otherwise try to narrow down the conditions.

- Kevin

kevmck · Agent Joined: Aug 20, 2003 Posts: 19

Sorry - forgot to add that the menu slowdown, once present, persists until the application is quit and restarted.

- Kevin

JKT · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:16 am Post subject:

Just as a FYI, with the upgrade to 1.2, the /J is being dropped from the name, so when referring to the 1.2 alphas, please call it NeoOffice only and not NeoOffice/J. Thanks.

P.S. Sorry I can't help with your problem - I tend to quit NeoOffice whenever I have finished using it so haven't experienced it myself, but from your last post this sounds very much like a bug. If it was simply a memory swapping problem, the menu responsiveness would return once the swapping had finished - and that would be after a few seconds or so. If you haven't already, post an issue at the Neo BugZilla. Be aware that Patrick has had to go back into full time employment recently due to lack of funding for the NeoOffice project so it may be a while before someone can look into this.

Orgleser · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:

I have the same experience as Kevin. Time (a whole day of running e.g. - including some sleep of iBook) makes menues slow to extremely slow. Restarting Neo makes them faster again. Directly after a sleep period it is not significantly slower than just before sleep (tested with a short sleep period), so it should be running time rather than sleep. 1,2ghz iBook G4, 768 MB RAM, OSX.3.9.

T.

kevmck · Agent Joined: Aug 20, 2003 Posts: 19

Thanks for the confirmation, Orgleser. I have now filed bug #1206. Thanks also to JKT for pointing out the dropping of the J - somehow I managed to miss that!

I know Patrick has had to shift back to spare-time work on NeoOffice and I sure wish I had a year's salary to send his direction or that I knew enough coding to be able to contribute more significantly. No expectation here of immediate turn around on all submitted bugs, just undying admiration and gratitude for all the hard work and passion that's been put into this wonderful application!

- Kevin

JKT · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:33 am Post subject:

Bug 1206 - just in case others reading the thread want an easy way to get to it Wink

Btw, Patrick has already responded...

Guest · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:57 am Post subject:

Actually, bright and early (11 am) this morning (vancouver time) I started up Neooffice to restart my assignment and the lag was there. I have retarted neoffice to find out exactly when the lag occurs. I find there is a noticeable lag immediately after opening a document. Doesn't matter if I wait five seconds or 15 before clicking file,open- there is a time lag. After that there is no lag for me. Even if I close all documents, go back and select "Text Document" from the NeoOffice menu, wait for Unititled1 to show up, and then try to open the doc I am working (2 pages) there is no lag.

Hope this helps. Just wanted to say that I am experiencing lag shortly after startup which seems to go away- that doesn't look like a memory leak. My machine is a powerbook 133 with 10.4 and gobs of RAM (768MB).

Hari

Guest · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:58 am Post subject:

pluby · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:00 pm Post subject:

kevmck · Agent Joined: Aug 20, 2003 Posts: 19

Update: since posting this bug I've not been able to reproduce it again. The only lag I get now is when I first bring the application back into focus after sitting idle for some time. Then, the first menu selection is slow, but subsequent menu selections are snappy. I'll keep testing for it (and have updated Bugzilla with this information as well), but am now fairly certain the issue must not have been NeoOffice related.

- Kevin

Guest · Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:43 am Post subject:

I have a behaviour similar to these...
Whenever I use NeoJ there is a lag that vary from about 15sec to 45sec,this is reproducible and this is EVERY TIME I call a menu, the behaviour don't differ if I call a menu shortly after the app is loaded or after some hours of inactivity and don't change if I shut down and then reload the app.
This behaviour appeared with the new release and remained there with the patches...

I have a Ibook G4 1,2Mhz (the last rev) 512mb,10.4.5 with the last secpatch.

Guest · Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:50 am Post subject:

Orgleser · Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:54 am Post subject:

What version of Neo do you use? You wrote about NeoJ - that would be very out of date. Please upgrade to NeoOffice 1.2 from the download page (if you really still use NeoOffice/J, that means version 1.1.) AND apply the newest patch. If you use NeoOffice 1.2a (the alpha) or newer you can upgrade just by applying the latest patch:http://www.planamesa.com/neojava/en/patch.php. Most of the problems should be solved with this.
T.
Edited (added "or newer" to the version upgradeable by the newest patch)