Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Montpellier, France
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:30 am Post subject:
yoxi wrote:
I am personally mystified that anyone would want to open a palette in order *not* to go ahead and use it, but if that's what most folk have requested, then there you go, especially if it's how other Apple apps do their thing.
As far as I can tell, the whole point of having floating palettes (instead of actual windows) is to be able to use them without needing to give them the focus. Otherwise a regular window would be just as effective, and there would be no reason for the palettes to exist?
I can see it both ways - there are the palettes that are essentially floating toolbars, which pretty much demand mouse interaction to use. But then there are palettes like Styles & Formatting, where there is a lot more potential for interaction with the palette (e.g. creating/editing styles).
I can see that no-one wants a palette that appears in the cycle of opened windows. But for me, it's a bloomin' nuisance if I can't navigate to the palette (and back again to the doc) using the keyboard, which is probably because I got into computers pre-GUI. If I'm using an app to write with, i.e. essentially a keyboard-driven activity, it's counter-productive to have to switch to the mouse to do certain things. Maybe this ctrl-F6 thing is the answer for folk like me.
I suppose it's different paradigms for different folks. Some mac users pride themselves in not knowing any keyboard shortcuts and always using the mouse. Serves me right for universalising my experience .
Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Montpellier, France
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:14 am Post subject:
pluby wrote:
sardisson wrote:
On Mac OS X, palette windows don't get focus by default when you open them (not the kind of focus you mean); you have to press Ctrl-F6 to focus them (and then have Full Keyboard Access on to do something useful with a focused palette).
I just tested this and it appears that Ctrl-F6 has no effect on NeoOffice so I need to fix that.
Patrick
Ctrl-F6 doesn't work for me with the Styles & Formatting palette either. However, the Media Browser (which gets the focus by default, BTW), does regain focus if you switch the focus to the window and then use Ctrl-F6…
Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 4752 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:48 am Post subject:
Samwise wrote:
Ctrl-F6 doesn't work for me with the Styles & Formatting palette either. However, the Media Browser (which gets the focus by default, BTW), does regain focus if you switch the focus to the window and then use Ctrl-F6…
Yeah the Media Browser is pure cocoa; the other floating windows are still backed by OOo VCL. This may be why the behaviour is different.
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