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Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz
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by ebernet on Thursday, May 03 @ 14:47:04 CDT
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Ok, yeah, I can see. No love.
I have been disappointed by their half promises and actually posted the following on their blog. And oh yeah. You guys should get some beer ;)
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I completely agree with Helge - Cocoa makes absolutely no sense for this project, and would require a shift to Objective-C, which makes even less sense given the codebase of OO is in C++. It will be nice when people finally get that for the most part Cocoa sits on top of many Carbon calls (well, on top of Core)... That being said, the criticism of NeoOffice here is also very silly, They have done a great job, they have not "rewritten" the app in Java, and their Java layer is fairly slim and allows bringing the graphics layer over fairly quickly. Java is supported well on the Mac OS X (unfortunately not enough by Sun, which is maybe where they SHOULD be focusing), and showing a commitment to the NeoOffice team instead of a go it alone attitude would also show they eat their own dog food. To be honest, with the half promises by Sun of Mac products, and dropping the ball with Oh so many things (Java, KitchenSink née Watson, and previous open Office efforts, just to begin) I have little faith in this product.
Mr. Lohmann, I would love to hear your comments regarding:
1. Cocoa Vs Carbon (as I said, as a programmer I see Carbon as a much more natural fit)
2. The Work Neo Office has done, and the use of Java, and joining them, and
3. Your honest assessment as to where this will go and a comment on previous Mac porting efforts, and especially Sun's commitment to the JVM on the Mac.
Thank you for posting your blog.
Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz
by jeromatron on Tuesday, May 08 @ 22:15:34 CDT
Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz
by OPENSTEP on Wednesday, May 09 @ 00:01:39 CDT
Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz
by jeromatron on Wednesday, May 09 @ 00:43:51 CDT
Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz
by OPENSTEP on Wednesday, May 09 @ 08:38:50 CDT
Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz
by ebernet on Friday, May 11 @ 15:45:57 CDT
Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz
by OPENSTEP on Saturday, May 12 @ 18:04:51 CDT
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