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yoxi Cipher
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:54 am Post subject: 1.1.5 RC released by OpenOffice.org |
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Since everyone's bound to be asking this - what's the significance of this release for the nearer future of NeoOffice/J?
As it has OpenDocument support, how soon - if at all - will the 1.1.5 code make its way to Neo/J? (I mean: is the plan to head straight for the v2 code, or will there be integration of the 1.1.5 code in the meantime, given the amount of work involved in getting v2 lined up?)
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jjmckenzie51 The Anomaly
Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 1055 Location: Southeastern Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: Re: 1.1.5 RC released by OpenOffice.org |
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yoxi wrote: | Since everyone's bound to be asking this - what's the significance of this release for the nearer future of NeoOffice/J?
As it has OpenDocument support, how soon - if at all - will the 1.1.5 code make its way to Neo/J? (I mean: is the plan to head straight for the v2 code, or will there be integration of the 1.1.5 code in the meantime, given the amount of work involved in getting v2 lined up?)
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Not the answer you are looking for, but as soon as I get a copy of the 1.1.5 source, I will look at it and see if I can get a build done of it for the X11 branch. If this works, it may be possible to move Patrick and Eds work to incorporate the Carbon/Java framework and have an RC very soon for Neo/J with 1.1.5 capabilities. Then again, it may take months.....Thus, no promises and Patrick and Ed continue to work on gcc 4.0 compatibility as this must happen if we are to see Neo/J on MacIntel.
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pluby The Architect
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Given that our current development plan is to add Java 1.4.x support and native widgets before we upgrade to OOo 2.0, IMO the most logical thing to do is to upgrade Neo/J to use the OOo 1.1.5 code either after the Java 1.4.x work is done and push out a Neo/J 1.1.5 release.
I diffed all of the OOo 1.1.4 and 1.1.5 sources and the changes seem to be limited to filter changes and translation updates. So, I don't think it will take me more than a week to upgrade the Neo/J code to use the OOo 1.1.5 code.
Using the OOo 1.1.5 code would buy us a lot of time as we would have a stable release with that supports the OOo 2.0 file formats.
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jjmckenzie51 The Anomaly
Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 1055 Location: Southeastern Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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pluby wrote: | Given that our current development plan is to add Java 1.4.x support and native widgets before we upgrade to OOo 2.0, IMO the most logical thing to do is to upgrade Neo/J to use the OOo 1.1.5 code either after the Java 1.4.x work is done and push out a Neo/J 1.1.5 release.
I diffed all of the OOo 1.1.4 and 1.1.5 sources and the changes seem to be limited to filter changes and translation updates. So, I don't think it will take me more than a week to upgrade the Neo/J code to use the OOo 1.1.5 code.
Using the OOo 1.1.5 code would buy us a lot of time as we would have a stable release with that supports the OOo 2.0 file formats.
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Thanks for the update. Where did you get the source code, as I'm looking for it.
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pluby The Architect
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:28 am Post subject: |
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I just did a "cvs diff -r SRX645_m57" in each of the OOo modules in my Neo/J build directory.
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yoxi Cipher
Joined: Sep 07, 2004 Posts: 1799 Location: Dawlish, Devon
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I don't think it will take me more than a week to upgrade the Neo/J code to use the OOo 1.1.5 code. |
Good news - that would indeed buy you some time as we'd have a Neo/J that could read/write OpenDocument docs regardless of how long it takes to get to v2 itself, so there'd be no breakdown of compatibility with win/linux users.
Good luck with the upgrading!
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Waldo Oracle
Joined: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 239
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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yoxi wrote: | Quote: | I don't think it will take me more than a week to upgrade the Neo/J code to use the OOo 1.1.5 code. |
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This is great news
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Adam_Moore Pure-blooded Human
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Guys I get a build, but I would watch out with 1.1.5 There has been a few critical issues that have come out with the RC. One of them being that it can read open document format but cannot save in open document format. I think until it's announced to everyone that the RC is out I would be careful about bugs you encounter. There has been 3 RC's in the last 2 weeks, mostly installation and l10n issues so that shouldn't be a problem for you.
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jjmckenzie51 The Anomaly
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Adam_Moore wrote: | Guys I get a build, but I would watch out with 1.1.5 There has been a few critical issues that have come out with the RC. One of them being that it can read open document format but cannot save in open document format. I think until it's announced to everyone that the RC is out I would be careful about bugs you encounter. There has been 3 RC's in the last 2 weeks, mostly installation and l10n issues so that shouldn't be a problem for you.
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How does one pull down through CVS the 1.1.5 RC code? I would like to look at it and see if the patches I've been working with on SRX645_m57 still work or are needed.
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jjmckenzie51 The Anomaly
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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pluby wrote: | I just did a "cvs diff -r SRX645_m57" in each of the OOo modules in my Neo/J build directory.
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Did you have any troubles with the xmerge directory?
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Adam_Moore Pure-blooded Human
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ovvldc Captain Naiobi
Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2352 Location: Zürich, CH
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Adam_Moore wrote: | So everyone knows 1.1.5 will not support saving in open document format. It will only read the format and you have to save in something else. |
Does that mean a 1.1.6 will be forthcoming that does support saving in open document? _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
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sardisson Town Crier
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:55 am Post subject: |
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ovvldc wrote: | Adam_Moore wrote: | So everyone knows 1.1.5 will not support saving in open document format. It will only read the format and you have to save in something else. |
Does that mean a 1.1.6 will be forthcoming that does support saving in open document? |
There's apparently a 1.1.6 target, since that's what Patrick's dontated code is now targeted for, FWIW.
Import-only is not exactly going to spur adoption of the OpenDocument formats, either, but it at least provides a modicum of interoperability between people running the betas (or alphas in the Mac OS X case!) of 2.0 without having to bug the sender to resend in another format. If the sender is using KOffice, however, I'm not sure it's so helpful since one would have to send .sx*/MS format back....
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Adam_Moore Pure-blooded Human
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Reading e-mails it seems that they didn't want to put too much developer time into it. Now I don't know if that is because they wanted to get a 1.1.5 out or they just don't want to do it. I think it's a bad decision, but I don't work on these things so I don't know what's involved. _________________ Adam Moore
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