Joined: Jun 20, 2006 Posts: 2051 Location: Midwest, USA
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject:
RoyFocker wrote:
the only greek text that uses it is on the "New Testament", the Revelation (Apocallipse?), but don't remember the exact phrase...
A quick check of my the Greek New Testament (NA 27) in Accordance brought up Acts 28:15, referring to the Forum of Appius. It is a genitive singular in that spot, though.
Oh, Lorinda, thanks: someone using Nestle-Alland 27... and a concordance... and NeoOffice... is very difficult to find!! I was wrong with the quote.
I started learning ancient Greek and Latin in 1993 and studied these languages for 4 years. After, gave Greek lessons in Salamanca, Spain (the book of syntax of ancient Greek that I mentioned in the last post was mine: I wrote the book and prepared it for print...) The latin language isn't dead, Philip: there are many people (most of them here in Rome) that use and "create" the needed words to say "modern things", like:
log in: inire
log out: exire
e-mail: litterae electronicae...
etc.
But, I hate that. Between "dead" and "live" languages, there's space for languages that you can learn not to speak, but to read in the original and find particularities or expressions, most of them "intranslatable", but that you can express using many words (like "ana-kefal-aiw-sa-szai" of the letter to the Ephesians or "Ibant obscuri sola sub nocte per umbram" or “quadrupedante putrem sonitu quatit ungula campum†of Virgilius).
Roy
aahh! 1: Philip: I want to see a photo of you doing "Santa jobs"...
aahh! 2: Days ago reading a box of cornflakes that comes from Greece, I saw: "syn amigdalas" (v.gr. with "tonsils") puaj!!! I went to my "Montanari" (an ancient greek dictionary) AMIGDALA, AS: almond... Cornflakes with almonds not tonsils...!!
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Joined: Jun 20, 2006 Posts: 2051 Location: Midwest, USA
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:56 am Post subject:
RoyFocker wrote:
Oh, Lorinda, thanks: someone using Nestle-Alland 27... and a concordance... and NeoOffice... is very difficult to find!! I was wrong with the quote.
It is probably an unusual combination! Accordance is a great piece of Bible software, written only for macs. The Spanish localization isn't up to date, though, and there isn't an Italian one; only English and German. (They do have Spanish and Italian Bibles, though, as well as lots of ancient Bible related texts.) if you are interested, you check them out here. (I don't work for them or anything; I'm just a very satisfied customer.)
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject:
RoyFocker wrote:
... The latin language isn't dead, Philip: there are many people (most of them here in Rome) that use and "create" the needed words to say "modern things", like:
log in: inire
log out: exire
e-mail: litterae electronicae...
etc.
Funny you should mention that!
I felt that same way. I wanted to study Latin in High School, in the late 1960's, because it's the basis of so many words, old and New! If I had studied latin, I would have had a much better understanding of words, what they mean, how to pronounce them.
Instead, I'm just a computer engineer that has communications problems!
RoyFocker wrote:
But, I hate that. Between "dead" and "live" languages, there's space for languages that you can learn not to speak, but to read in the original and find particularities or expressions, most of them "intranslatable", but that you can express using many words (like "ana-kefal-aiw-sa-szai" of the letter to the Ephesians or "Ibant obscuri sola sub nocte per umbram" or “quadrupedante putrem sonitu quatit ungula campum†of Virgilius).
All true. In United States, we tend to know only one language, and do poorly with that!
Knowing how to communicate with people around the world expands your understanding of humanity. THAT is a Big reason I find these NeoOffice "forums" so interesting. So many different people, languages, and cultures.
It has helped me improve my communications with others, on and off the forums.
Code:
(note: sometimes I really wonder what I have written looks like in a different language! Must be funny at times! :roll:
RoyFocker wrote:
Roy
aahh! 1: Philip: I want to see a photo of you doing "Santa jobs"...
aahh! 2: ...Cornflakes with almonds not tonsils...!!
Hum - hoist by my own petard, methinks (Post Flakes?) - it was meant to be a pun on InterFlora... I had assumed it was an international phenomenon, so I thought everyone would be familiar with Say It With Flowers as a catchline. I'll go away now.
- padmavyuha
/Say It With Animals - InterFauna
\oh, is this slashies a directional thing? I'm lefthanded
|by 'Anglo' I meant 'England' rather than 'English' - so much for avoiding ambiguity
Someone in the US uses "Say it with flowers", too, but for the life of me I can't remember who. FTD?
Smokey
/got the joke
//losing his mind
///swinging sledgehammers at OOo mail merge _________________ "[...] whether the duck drinks hot chocolate or coffee is irrelevant." -- ovvldc and sardisson in the NeoWiki
... The latin language isn't dead, Philip: there are many people (most of them here in Rome) that use and "create" the needed words to say "modern things", like:
log in: inire
log out: exire
e-mail: litterae electronicae...
etc.
Funny you should mention that!
I felt that same way. I wanted to study Latin in High School, in the late 1960's, because it's the basis of so many words, old and New! If I had studied latin, I would have had a much better understanding of words, what they mean, how to pronounce them.
Instead, I'm just a computer engineer that has communications problems!
RoyFocker wrote:
But, I hate that. Between "dead" and "live" languages, there's space for languages that you can learn not to speak, but to read in the original and find particularities or expressions, most of them "intranslatable", but that you can express using many words (like "ana-kefal-aiw-sa-szai" of the letter to the Ephesians or "Ibant obscuri sola sub nocte per umbram" or “quadrupedante putrem sonitu quatit ungula campum†of Virgilius).
All true. In United States, we tend to know only one language, and do poorly with that!
Knowing how to communicate with people around the world expands your understanding of humanity. THAT is a Big reason I find these NeoOffice "forums" so interesting. So many different people, languages, and cultures.
It has helped me improve my communications with others, on and off the forums.
Code:
(note: sometimes I really wonder what I have written looks like in a different language! Must be funny at times! :roll:
RoyFocker wrote:
Roy
aahh! 1: Philip: I want to see a photo of you doing "Santa jobs"...
aahh! 2: ...Cornflakes with almonds not tonsils...!!
Joined: Nov 21, 2005 Posts: 1285 Location: Witless Protection Program
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject:
hellpop,
You thought is was so good that you wanted to ... repeat it?
(I did, but did not think others would?!? )
yoxi, I'm soooooooooooooo cornfused.
Here I thought InterFlora was something that grew in yer stomach? (sorry, I was ... ill last week)
Anglo? Guess that leaves me out (and can't speak "English" either)
Philip ( Lost in cyber ... space! )
\ slashies? I don't seem to have a clue.
\. I "thought" it might be a Slash Dot thang
/\ or Windows vs Macintosh??
\ = Slash, or left Slash (for the the Lefties?)
/ = Back Slash, or Back Slash, even ... Right Slash
Yes, there's the:
Say It With Bacteria - IntestinalFlora
version of the gag too, but I'd forgotten about it, and anyway it's too long
As for Anglo, its specificity depends on whether one is referring to language or to provenance, so Anglo-Irish would mean specifically 'forebears from England and Ireland' but an Anglophone is someone who speaks any kind of English (whether UK, US, AUS, NZ, or wherever/however else...) so it's an ambiguous stem to use. Maybe I was being un/semi-consciously provocative.
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