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pluby
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| OPENSTEP wrote: | | Set them all to "never". Note also that at least on my old tibook, when running on battery the backlight will dim even though the screensaver does not come on nor the machine goes to sleep. I wonder if maybe that is what you're seeing. |
If you are seeing the backlight dimming that Ed described, then the solution is to plug your laptop into a power outlet. Apple has implemented aggressive battery power conservation measures and the display uses a lot of battery power so I don't think that the UpdateSystemActivity() function that Gust found will stop the backlight from dimming. AFAIK, the only thing that stops the backlight dimming is plugging your laptop into a power outlet.
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pluby
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Gust
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| pluby wrote: | | If you are a NeoOffice 3.0.1 Early Access member, can you install the test patch and tell us if it prevents sleeping? Note that it probably will not stop the backlight from dimming. It will only prevent a full sleep. |
I can confirm that the patch prevents sleeping, screensaving and even dimming. Great. Nevertheless, there seems to be a probably unrelated issue with dual screen setup, I guess the Presenter Console code is flipping for whatever reason and fails to render the presentation properly. |
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pluby
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| Gust wrote: | | I can confirm that the patch prevents sleeping, screensaving and even dimming. Great. Nevertheless, there seems to be a probably unrelated issue with dual screen setup, I guess the Presenter Console code is flipping for whatever reason and fails to render the presentation properly. |
You are correct: the Sun Presenter Console code has no shared code with the sleep prevention. The Sun Presenter Console is an OpenOffice.org extension written by Sun Microsystems' OpenOffice.org engineers that we bundle with NeoOffice as a convenience whereas the the sleep prevention is in NeoOffice's very low level native event dispatching code.
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Gust
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| pluby wrote: | | You are correct: the Sun Presenter Console code has no shared code with the sleep prevention. The Sun Presenter Console is an OpenOffice.org extension written by Sun Microsystems' OpenOffice.org engineers that we bundle with NeoOffice as a convenience whereas the the sleep prevention is in NeoOffice's very low level native event dispatching code. |
Do you consider to investigate the issue with the console code as well? Considered that it has no relationship with the subject of this thread, maybe I should open a new thread in the appropriate forum (EA). |
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pluby
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Gust wrote: | | Do you consider to investigate the issue with the console code as well? Considered that it has no relationship with the subject of this thread, maybe I should open a new thread in the appropriate forum (EA). |
No I did not as we have not changed the scope of the NeoOffice project.
Unfortunately, our very limited donations still only provides enough funding for one fulltime developer which limits the current scope of the NeoOffice project to keeping a stable version of OpenOffice.org running on Mac OS X. Because of these limits, fixing OpenOffice.org feature bugs is outside that scope.
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pluby
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| pluby wrote: | | No I did not as we have not changed the scope of the NeoOffice project. |
I forgot to add that I did check to see if we have made any changes to Sun Microsystems' presentation console code in this release and I confirmed that we are using the same code that Sun included has in their OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 code repository.
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narf
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Gust wrote: | | I can confirm that the patch prevents sleeping, screensaving and even dimming. Great. Nevertheless, there seems to be a probably unrelated issue with dual screen setup, I guess the Presenter Console code is flipping for whatever reason and fails to render the presentation properly. |
I have not seen an issue with a dual screen presentation. My presentation is pretty simple, no fancy transitions and I do have the latest test patch.
Can you give us a set of steps so we can reproduce the problem? Please attach a sample presentation showing the issue using the instructions in this forum post.
Thanks,
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Gust
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| narf wrote: | | Can you give us a set of steps so we can reproduce the problem? Please attach a sample presentation showing the issue using the instructions in this forum post. |
Ok, you are right that it does work correctly for simple (dummy) presentation, thanks for pointing this out. But I was just opening a presentation that I ran under 3.0 on 10.5 only last week. The file didn't change, but now I'm running 3.0.1 EA on 10.6 and rendering is utterly unreliable. I'll see if I can isolate the issue. |
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I've played around a little bit with the console. It is my intuition that something is going wrong with it rendering graphics (I mean bitmap like things). I've prepared a odp file which carries only 2 graphics. Do the following steps under a dual monitor extended desktop setup:- Close NeoOffice
- Open NeoOffice by double clicking console.odp in the Finder; remark the slowish rendering of the graphics
- Start the presentation; the console comes up painfully slowish and fails to render things correctly
- Hit esc to quit the presentation; note that the background picture doesn't get rendered anymore in the file window
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narf
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I could not replicate the problems you reported with the sample file.
The graphics were rendered correctly in the presentation and the background graphic was rendered after I escaped out of the presentation.
What version of Mac OS X are you using? Edit to add, I see from an earlier post you are using Mac OS X 10.6.
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pluby
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| narf wrote: | | The graphics were rendered correctly in the presentation and the background graphic was rendered after I escaped out of the presentation. |
I should also add that none of the bitmap graphics rendering code has changed since NeoOffice 3.0 Patch 7. The only changes that were made were:
1. Native file locking
2. Glyph size calculation on Snow Leopard
3. The sleep preventation function call every 15 seconds
All of the rest of the NeoOffice code is the exact same code as NeoOffice 3.0 Patch 7 so unless you are running Snow Leopard, you really should be looking at whether or not you have other applications or system hacks that are slowing down or interfering with NeoOffice.
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Gust
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| pluby wrote: | | All of the rest of the NeoOffice code is the exact same code as NeoOffice 3.0 Patch 7 so unless you are running Snow Leopard, you really should be looking at whether or not you have other applications or system hacks that are slowing down or interfering with NeoOffice. |
I'm effectively running Snow Leopard. Probably some issue there. |
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pluby
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| Gust wrote: | | I'm effectively running Snow Leopard. Probably some issue there. |
We have Snow Leopard 10.6.1, but we are going to have to figure out how to get two monitors hooked to it as our Mac Mini Intel machine only has one monitor feed.
In the meantime, can you do the following?:
1. Can you verify that you are running 10.6.1 by selecting the Apple :: Software Update menu? If there are any system updates, does installing the updates and rebooting change anything?
2. Can you open the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal application, paste the following commands in the Terminal application window, press the Return key, and paste the output into this forum topic?:
ls -l ~/Library/InputManagers
ls -l ~/Library/Application\ Support
ls -l /Library/InputManagers
ls -l /Library/Application\ Support
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Gust
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| pluby wrote: | | We have Snow Leopard 10.6.1, but we are going to have to figure out how to get two monitors hooked to it as our Mac Mini Intel machine only has one monitor feed. |
I've a fully updated 32-bit Intel MacBook running 10.6.1, afaik that should be pretty similar to the Mini. As for the dual monitor setup, I have no suggestions. Running the requested commands returns:- ls -l ~/Library/InputManagers
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ls -l ~/Library/Application\ Support | Code: | total 0
drwx------ 8 gust staff 272 Sep 14 22:00 AddressBook
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 Jan 11 2008 Console
drwx------ 12 gust staff 408 Sep 13 19:28 CrashReporter
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 Feb 21 2008 DVD Player
drwx------ 4 gust staff 136 Sep 13 2008 Dashcode
drwxr-xr-x 7 gust staff 238 Jun 17 2008 Firefox
drwxr-xr-x 4 gust staff 136 Sep 15 19:12 Front Row
drwx------ 18 gust staff 612 Aug 13 16:45 Gimp
drwxr-xr-x 7 gust staff 238 Jan 9 2009 Google Earth
drwxr-xr-x 4 gust staff 136 Feb 8 2008 Growl
drwxr-xr-x 6 gust staff 204 Sep 13 17:49 HandBrake
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 May 12 00:16 Livestation
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 Sep 10 2008 MobileSync
drwxr-xr-x@ 3 gust staff 102 Jun 17 2008 Mozilla
drwxr-xr-x 4 gust staff 136 Jun 27 17:01 MySQL
drwxr-xr-x 2 gust staff 68 Jan 26 2008 Photo Booth
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 Sep 14 09:00 Preview
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 Sep 15 16:10 Smultron
drwxr-xr-x 5 gust staff 170 Dec 10 2008 Songbird2
drwx------ 3 gust staff 102 May 21 00:51 SyncServices
drwxr-xr-x 6 gust staff 204 Sep 7 00:48 TomTom HOME
drwxr-xr-x 7 gust staff 238 Sep 28 2008 Transmission
drwxr-xr-x 2 gust staff 68 Nov 22 2007 Xcode
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 Mar 16 2008 blueMarine
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 Sep 14 17:15 iSync
drwxr-xr-x 3 gust staff 102 Dec 30 2008 iSync Plug-in Maker |
ls -l /Library/InputManagers | Code: | | No such file or directory |
ls -l /Library/Application\ Support | Code: | total 0
drwxrwxr-x 10 root admin 340 Sep 12 19:10 Apple
drwxrwxr-x 13 root admin 442 Sep 15 07:27 CrashReporter
drwxrwxrwx 6 root admin 204 Sep 15 22:10 EyeTV
drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Jul 8 09:39 HWPrefs
drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Mar 6 2009 Macromedia
drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Sep 12 19:17 Mozilla
drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 May 23 02:37 ProApps
drwxrwxr-x 6 root admin 204 Sep 12 19:31 Shark
drwxr-xr-x 8 root admin 272 Sep 12 19:17 cocoAspell
drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Sep 12 19:17 hp
drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Jul 24 04:21 iLifeMediaBrowser
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There's no InputManagers in Library. Were you looking for Input\ Methods? |
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