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whatsinaname
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 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: Text Delay/Cursor Blink? |
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I have done a search, so apologise if this has been dealt with.
While using writer, there seems to be an irritating delay between typing the text and it appearing on the page. I have tried to change various settings, to no avail. Not that I am sure what settings to change.
Any help?
I am using 2.4.4, patch 4, on an Apple G4 iBook with 750 ram
Thanks. |
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K-9
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I have experienced this in the past worse than lately, but it is still relevant is a way to my slow machine 867 mghz 12" powerbook and 640 ram. On my old macbook pro core duo - not core 2 duo, and 2 gb's of ram it flies. On my daughter's core 2 duo macbook with 1 GB of ram it also flies. Maybe faster than my macbook pro. So it is your machine.
I also see a speedy save on the macbook pro but when I save on the powerbook it is very slow. The save bar takes a while and the icons have to re-appear. On the macbook pro or my daughter's macbook it happens so quick you do not even notices this as such.
Just my take of it. Hope this helps. |
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rpatrick
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I recently downgraded from a MacBook to an iBook G4 1.33ghz 1GB RAM (long story but basically I needed some cash!) and although the very first few letters typed on my iBook are delayed by a second or so, after that it gets very snappy - no delays at all. In fact I'm impressed at how snappy it is - much quicker for example than OOo.org Aqua at the moment.
What are the specs of your machine?
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rpatrick
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Oh and i forgot to say before, there is a patch 5 to download now - always best to keep up to date with them!
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pluby
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Text Delay/Cursor Blink? |
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| whatsinaname wrote: | I have done a search, so apologise if this has been dealt with.
While using writer, there seems to be an irritating delay between typing the text and it appearing on the page. I have tried to change various settings, to no avail. Not that I am sure what settings to change.
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Please install Patch 5 from the NeoOffice patch download page. Does that speed things back up to normal?
If not, then Can you open the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal application, paste the following commands in the Terminal application window, press the Return key, and paste the output into this bug?:
| Code: | ls -l ~/Library/InputManagers
ls -l ~/Library/Application\ Support
ls -l /Library/InputManagers
ls -l /Library/Application\ Support |
This will tell us if you have any system hacks and, if so, we can then tell you how to disable them. System hacks inject themselves into all applications on your machine and, as a result, we have found that some system hacks can cause instability or slowness in applications so this is the first place we usually check.
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whatsinaname
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Thanks - I have now downloaded patch 5, which has improved things sufficient to live with, but the delay is still there, so Patrick, here's the results from Terminal. Don't know what half of these are!
(I am running 10.4.11 on a 1.2 GHzPower PC G4)
Last login: Sun Aug 17 17:25:52 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
jen-browns-ibook-g4:~ jen$ ls -l ~/Library/InputManagers
total 8
lrwxr-xr-x 1 jen jen 69 Aug 17 2007 Edit in WriteRoom -> /Volumes/WriteRoom/WriteRoom.app/Contents/Resources/Edit in WriteRoom
drwxr-xr-x 4 jen jen 136 May 17 2007 GrowlCamino
jen-browns-ibook-g4:~ jen$ ls -l ~/Library/Application\ Support
total 2192
drwx------ 11 jen jen 374 Sep 1 06:43 AddressBook
drwxr-xr-x 5 jen jen 170 Mar 26 2006 Adobe
drwxr-xr-x 3 jen jen 102 Aug 19 18:14 Calculator
drwxr-xr-x 27 jen jen 918 Aug 12 22:03 Camino
drwxr-xr-x 2 jen jen 68 May 8 2005 Contents:MIDI Device Plug-ins
drwxr-xr-x 3 jen jen 102 Mar 26 16:55 Cultured Code
drwxr-xr-x 4 jen jen 136 Sep 30 2005 DVD Player
drwxr-xr-x 5 jen jen 170 Aug 23 2007 Do It
drwx------ 2 jen jen 68 Jun 24 2007 Enchant
drwxr-xr-x 5 jen jen 170 Jun 29 08:23 Firefox
drwxr-xr-x 6 jen jen 204 Aug 9 19:01 FullCircle
drwxr-xr-x 4 jen jen 136 Apr 29 2007 Growl
drwxr-xr-x 4 jen jen 136 Jun 19 2005 Macromedia
drwxr-xr-x 6 jen jen 204 Feb 4 2007 Mori
drwxr-xr-x 3 jen jen 102 Mar 24 21:28 Mozilla
-rw-r--r-- 1 jen jen 0 Apr 2 18:53 PRIF277128
drwxr-xr-x 11 jen admin 374 Oct 31 2005 Pieces & Backgrounds
drwxr-xr-x 12 jen jen 408 Sep 1 06:47 Quicksilver
drwxr-xr-x 4 jen jen 136 Jul 22 2007 Quinn
drwxr-xr-x 3 jen jen 102 Apr 28 12:43 Service Scrubber
drwxr-xr-x 3 jen jen 102 Aug 24 2007 Snowmint
drwxr-xr-x 2 jen jen 68 May 16 2006 SubRosaSoft
drwx------ 3 jen jen 102 May 3 2005 SyncServices
drwxr-xr-x 4 jen jen 136 Aug 28 22:25 TaskPaper
drwxr-xr-x 2 jen jen 68 May 8 2005 Terminal
drwxr-xr-x 3 jen jen 102 Aug 23 2007 To Do Tracker
drwxr-xr-x 8 jen jen 272 Jun 29 16:11 WriteRoom
drwxrwxrwx 3 jen jen 102 May 3 08:23 eSellerate
drwxr-xr-x 9 jen jen 306 Aug 31 14:46 iCal
-rw-r--r-- 1 jen jen 1115246 Aug 27 17:20 temp.raw
jen-browns-ibook-g4:~ jen$ ls -l /Library/InputManagers
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 Dec 31 2006 GrowlSafari
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 May 13 2007 iCalFix
jen-browns-ibook-g4:~ jen$ ls -l /Library/Application\ Support |
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pluby
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Thanks for posting the output. From your output, there are 4 possible system hacks. Can you you disable them by moving the following four folders to your Desktop or Trash and then rebooting?:
~/Library/InputManagers/GrowlCamino
~/Library/InputManagers/Edit in WriteRoom
/Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari
/Library/InputManagers/iCalFix
Note that for the first two folders, "~" means your home folder. You can find the last two folders by double-clicking on the main volume icon on your desktop and, in the Finder window that appears, navigating down through the Library and InputManagers folders.
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whatsinaname
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure if it has made much difference doing that Patrick - perhaps the delay is now not every letter, but ever so slightly more sporadic than that.
I can live with this now, although if there is some other something worth trying?.... |
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pluby
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| whatsinaname wrote: | Not sure if it has made much difference doing that Patrick - perhaps the delay is now not every letter, but ever so slightly more sporadic than that.
I can live with this now, although if there is some other something worth trying?.... |
Just to confirm, did you reboot? The system hacks that you moved will remain enabled to you do a reboot.
Assuming that you did reboot, the next thing to check is if any other applications are using excessive CPU. If you open the /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor application and click on the CPU% column, are there any applications (other than Activity Monitor) that are using more than 2% of CPU? If so, does the delay go away after you quit those applications?
I find that Safari or Firefox sometimes have very high CPU when some pages, specifically pages with ads, are loaded.
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whatsinaname
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Sorry about the delay, have not been at my computer.
Yes I did reboot, and no, it doesn't seem to make any difference with those apps turned off.
I appreciate the efforts though, thank you. |
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Lorinda
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I know you checked some settings, but I'm wondering if you checked this one:
Go to the NeoOffice menu and choose Preferences (or hit command-,)
Click on Language Settings, then on Writing Aids
In the Options box, scroll down to "Check in All Languages" and make sure that it is unchecked.
If it was checked, does unchecking it improve things?
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whatsinaname
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| Hi Lorinda - no, it was unchecked. I unchecked the 2 region settings too - no idea what they are for - but no effect either way. |
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pluby
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| whatsinaname wrote: | | Hi Lorinda - no, it was unchecked. I unchecked the 2 region settings too - no idea what they are for - but no effect either way. |
What about the CPU usage of other applications? Did you open the Activity Monitor application and find anything using the steps in my earlier post?
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whatsinaname
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes sorry Patrick, I should have made it clearer in the earlier post - that's what I meant when I wrote it doesn't make any difference with those apps turned off. |
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pluby
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OK. My only other theory is that you are experiencing bug 3196. Can you install the test patch from the links in my last post in that bug? Do you see any change after that?
Patrick |
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