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mm77 Blue Pill
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: short name citations |
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Hi, can anybody explain how the short name system works in the bibliography tool? I would like to enter in-text citations into a document using apa style. All I seem to be able to do is enter a short name in to the document. Thanks, mike. |
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PadreSol Blue Pill
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: short name citations |
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Same question for me, I thought I was missing something obvious. But as far as the instructions for inserting a bibliography from the bibilograhpy db I followed those correctly. So is it broken? If it's broken is there a bug logged?
I just spent a half-hour entering entries in the db now I can't use them. Is there a way to export them to a text file from the db? |
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pluby The Architect
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have not seen many bibliography questions on this site in the past and I am not terribly familiar with this feature. So, can you list some sample steps that we can use to try to reproduce what you are trying to do?
Patrick |
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PadreSol Blue Pill
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks pluby. I hope it's something stupid that I'm doing so I can make this work, since I have a deadline (who doesn't?)
Here's my workflow:
Added entries to Biblio db.
Then in the document I go to Insert->index/tables->biblio entry->select from biblio db->insert->(at this point it has inserted the shortcode)->close
Now I have an entry like [MSCdC-011] in my document instead of the text of the bibliography.
Am I expecting something that I shouldn't be expecting? |
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pluby The Architect
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the steps. I can easily reproduce the same behavior that you are seeing. Unfortunately, I think there is some undocumented trick to this so I'll have to keep poking around to see if I can find what magical step we are missing.
Edit: This tutorial looks promising. I haven't worked through the entire tutorial, but it appears to indicate that you have to do some preliminary steps before inserting the bibliographic entries.
Patrick |
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PadreSol Blue Pill
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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I am the proud owner of a bouncing new ..... Bibliography!!
Thanks pluby!
And for the OP, additional steps are (once you added shortcodes)
Choose Insert > Indexes and Tables > Indexes and Tables->Type->Bibliography
At the url that pluby found (I looked pretty good and did not find that BTW)
the screenshots have been squished down with html tags but in firefox if you right-click->view image you'll see the image clearly in its original form.
Nice, just not intuitive, and should be added to the docs. Once it's in the docs then problem is solved. |
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Lorinda Captain Mifune
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I've added a link to the bibiliography tutorial to the NeoWriter page in our wiki.
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: short name citations |
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pluby wrote: | I have not seen many bibliography questions on this site in the past and I am not terribly familiar with this feature. So, can you list some sample steps that we can use to try to reproduce what you are trying to do?
Patrick |
One suggestion I have is check out Zotero. It is an opensource biblio application that integrates with Firefox Browse and OpenOffice/NeoOffice (and MS Word).
It allows capture of reference data direct from say a library catalogue/database etc. so can save a lot of data entry
I have found it to be far better than the internal Biblio utility. It is an ongoing development and improving all the time.
www.zotero.com
or check teh NeoOffice Wiki for links |
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, I didn't know Zotero did a Neo extension! I had bookmarked that project a while back as one to look for making an extension if I had some free time. EndNote's always been closed source so there wasn't even a starting point if the company wasn't involved.
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ovvldc Captain Naiobi
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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This looks good! Has anyone tried entering Zotero citations in a .doc document and then opening it in NeoOffice?
I know that EndNote citations are simply removed if you open a Word the document in NeoOffice, which annoys me to no end.
BTW, they mention Python support is broken on OOo3..
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pluby The Architect
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: |
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ovvldc wrote: | BTW, they mention Python support is broken on OOo3. |
Are there any steps to test this? A couple of days ago I finally got the library loading in NeoOffice 3.0 fixed (after OpenOffice.org's "three product layering" broke it) so that extension loading works. So, I wonder if the Python issues are the result of the same OOo 3.0 brokenness.
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ovvldc Captain Naiobi
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have no idea. All I know was what I read in their documentation.
Best wishes,
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James3359 The Merovingian
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Broken Python support in OSX is Issue 92661 on OOo. Scheduled to be fixed at version 3.0.1. |
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pluby The Architect
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: |
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James3359 wrote: | Broken Python support in OSX is Issue 92661 on OOo. Scheduled to be fixed at version 3.0.1. |
The sample Basic code in that bug works fine in my NeoOffice 3.0 Early Access development build so I suspect that their new "three layer packaging" (which I have already fixed in NeoOffice) is the cause.
I suspect that this three layer packaging change is also causing significant performance problems in OpenOffice 3.0 so I may need to change things so that the old, simpler way is used.
Patrick |
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