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mds
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 Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: Help Menu Search? |
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Help menu search is missing in NeoOffice. It isn't available in OOo either, so do I correctly assume that the feature cannot be implemented for NeoOffice?
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This is known bug in Apple's Mac OS X Snow Leopard code and it is not a NeoOffice bug as applications do not create this menu. Instead, Mac OS X creates this menu. Since this is a Apple bug, we will need to wait until Apple fixes this bug in a future system update.
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FYI. I forgot to add that there are more details about this Mac OS X bug in the last item in the Snow Leopard Upgrade Issues NeoWiki article.
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pluby
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No worries. I doubt that you will be the last person to ask about this. For whatever reason, it seems that Apple's engineers changed the Snow Leopard code and, AFACIT, they have not published what special steps are now required for Mac OS X to propery recognize your application's help menu. 
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mds
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Do you know why only a few applications (at least on my system) are affected by this bug?
I've just checked about 30 applications, only three – Adobe Photoshop, NO and OOo – failed to display the help search menu.
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pluby
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| mds wrote: | | Do you know why only a few applications (at least on my system) are affected by this bug? |
No, I do not know. I spent a full day trying to reverse engineer what Mac OS X 10.6 needs for it to add the search menu item to our help menu, but I have not found any pattern.
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My first guess was not having a MainMenu.nib (even a dummy one), but OOo apparently includes one, so it's not that 
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pluby
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| sardisson wrote: | | My first guess was not having a MainMenu.nib (even a dummy one), but OOo apparently includes one, so it's not that |
The Help :: Search menu also appears when your preferred language. This makes me think that Mac OS X expects some combination of number and/or names of menus and menu items.
However, the German language pack changes the Help menu to Hilfe which is the same name that TextEdit uses. This is why I think that the Apple engineers' Snow Leopard is a little too clever for its own good.
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pluby
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I have good news: I found the major Cocoa call to invoke to tell Snow Leopard that our last menu is the help menu. 
I have added it to our code and it appears to work. I will include my changes in the next test patch that I post sometime this weekend.
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mds
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NeoOffice got help menu search, great, thank you!
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Patrick, could you point me to this code in CVSWeb? Or to the reference you found, if you know where that is?
I'm trying to track down a similar problem in Camino (without the aid of a 10.6 Mac) and this is the only useful reference to the problem I've found
Thanks,
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| sardisson wrote: | Patrick, could you point me to this code in CVSWeb? Or to the reference you found, if you know where that is?
I'm trying to track down a similar problem in Camino (without the aid of a 10.6 Mac) and this is the only useful reference to the problem I've found |
[NSApplication setHelpMenu:(NSMenu *)helpMenu] is the magic Objective-C selector that you call. Note: this new selector only exists in Mac OS X 10.6. |
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Thanks a million, Patrick!
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