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valterb
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: trinity.neooffice.xx

Try to follow these two links

http://trinity.neooffice.fr/

http://trinity.neooffice.it/

They bring to a french page to download OOo. What about trademarks?

Valter
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rays
The Anomaly
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Joined: Sep 23, 2004
Posts: 475
Location: Geneva, Switzerland

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject:

Both are registered to:

domain: neooffice.fr
address: DATA ACCESS
address: 57, rue d'Amsterdam
address: 75008 Paris
address: FR
phone: +33 8 71 75 89 79
fax-no: +33 1 43 54 23 99
e-mail: data.excess@gmail.com
admin-c: JC2493-FRNIC
tech-c: HU3-FRNIC
zone-c: NFC1-FRNIC
nserver: ns1.yodahost.com
nserver: ns2.yodahost.com
mnt-by: FR-NIC-MNT
mnt-lower: FR-NIC-MNT
changed: nic@nic.fr 20060315
source: FRNIC

person: Julien Clairet
address: DATA ACCESS
address: 57, rue d'Amsterdam
address: 75008 Paris
address: FR
phone: +33 8 71 75 89 79
fax-no: +33 1 43 54 23 99
e-mail: data.excess@gmail.com
liste-r: N
nic-hdl: JC2493-FRNIC
changed: nic@nic.fr 20051209
source: FRNIC

role: Hostmaster UNETUN
address: 1&1 Internet Sarl.
address: 7, place de la Gare
address: 57200 Sarreguemines
address: FR
e-mail: hostmaster@1and1.fr
admin-c: IR2-FRNIC
tech-c: IR2-FRNIC
nic-hdl: HU3-FRNIC
changed: hostmaster@1and1.fr 20040315
source: FRNIC

role: NIC France Contact
address: Afnic
address: immeuble international
address: 2, rue Stephenson
address: Montigny-Le-Bretonneux
address: 78181 Saint Quentin en Yvelines Cedex
address: FR
phone: +33 1 39 30 83 00
e-mail: hostmaster@nic.fr
admin-c: NFC1-FRNIC
tech-c: PL12-FRNIC
tech-c: JP-FRNIC
tech-c: MS1887-FRNIC
tech-c: VL-FRNIC
tech-c: PR1249-FRNIC
tech-c: PV827-FRNIC
tech-c: GO661-FRNIC
tech-c: MS-FRNIC
tech-c: AI1-FRNIC
nic-hdl: NFC1-FRNIC
mnt-by: FR-NIC-MNT
changed: tech@nic.fr 20011025
changed: tech@nic.fr 20020711
changed: sylvie.lacep@afnic.fr 20040805
changed: hostmaster@nic.fr 20041207
changed: hostmaster@nic.fr 20050823
source: FRNIC

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sardisson
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject:

Non-trinity links (www.neooffice.fr and so forth) do point you to real Neo downloads. Bizarre.

Smokey

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pluby
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject:

Thanks for finding this. Ed and I will consider filing a UDRP with ICAAN for this.

Patrick
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OPENSTEP
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Joined: May 25, 2003
Posts: 4752
Location: Santa Barbara, CA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject:

We only have under our domain "aegis" .org, .net, and .com (which is a redirect that was purhcased from a Korean adparking site). Right now I (at least) don't have any terrible plans to go and buy up every single possible variant in every country in the world, but if they're redirecting to OOo (or us) instead of parking ads things are much better than I would have expected.

ed
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valterb
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Posts: 463
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject:

sardisson wrote:
Non-trinity links (www.neooffice.fr and so forth) do point you to real Neo downloads. Bizarre.

Smokey

It's the same with www.neooffice.it

Valter
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OPENSTEP
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject:

Patrick and I are on this and we will be filing appropriate requests with ICANN for these domains.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Even if not an ad parking site, if someone redirects something involving our trademark to a competitor it constitutes bad faith usage of a domain name involving a registered trademark.

As they have accused us of engaging in criminal activity, I think it's fair to say that OOo is a competitor.

ed
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ovvldc
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Location: Zürich, CH

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject:

OPENSTEP wrote:
As they have accused us of engaging in criminal activity, I think it's fair to say that OOo is a competitor.


Hardly. But they would probably like to be a competitor Smile.

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OPENSTEP
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Location: Santa Barbara, CA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject:

Regardless, trademark law requires us to pursue every means we can to defend usage of our trademark within the US and affiliated countries. Whether this means our lawyers file a cease and desist in those jurisdictions or whether it means we need to pursue this through ICANN channels, we shall.

The NeoOffice trademark stands for the integrity, stability, and service Patrick, myself, and the NeoOffice community have provided for hundreds of thousands of people worldwide.

It is an injustice to see others try to drag our name into the dirt and I am glad to be able to ensure NeoOffice will always stand for the principles I hold dear.

ed
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