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Type 1 font display issue
 
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GibHenry
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:05 pm    Post subject: Type 1 font display issue Reply with quote

This is just too weird to post as a bug without some kind of confirmation first. Shocked

I purchased the MICR TrueType and Type 1 font some years ago (for printing checks). It has always worked fine under OS 9, and now works fine under OS X in TextEdit, FontBook, and other sofware...except in NeoOffice/J, where 13 of the 14 characters (ABCD and 0-9) display and print fine...all except the 8! Now, I've heard of being behind the 8-ball, but this is absurd! I can't imagine it's a problem with NOJ, but neither can I account for it in any other way. Also, I believe it printed fine with NOJ 0.8.2 or .3 or .4 a while back.

I can furnish a copy of the font for testing purposes if anyone can try it and see if they get the same weird results. Please contact me directly: gib at gibhenry point com. Thanks! Cheers,

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 1 font display issue Reply with quote

I fixed a similar bug (#150) today. The problem was that there were some collisions when you have more than one font with the same name on your machine.

I think I've fixed this "duplicate font" issue and I will contact you directly to test if my fix fixes your Type 1 font issue.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the problem with the MICR font that you sent me. Both the Type 1 and TrueType versions assign the character "8" to glyph ID 3. The problem is that the OOo code assumes that glyph ID 3 is a non-displaying space which is what appears on the screen.

I will see if there is a way that I can work around this problem.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I found the problem with the MICR font that you sent me. Both the Type 1 and TrueType versions assign the character "8" to glyph ID 3. The problem is that the OOo code assumes that glyph ID 3 is a non-displaying space which is what appears on the screen.


How do you know such stuff?!

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I will see if there is a way that I can work around this problem.


Would it be easier to change the font?! Which would conform better to standards? Cheers,

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GibHenry wrote:
pluby wrote:
I found the problem with the MICR font that you sent me. Both the Type 1 and TrueType versions assign the character "8" to glyph ID 3. The problem is that the OOo code assumes that glyph ID 3 is a non-displaying space which is what appears on the screen.


How do you know such stuff?!


Because Patrick is a genius! Smile

When I saw the thread, my first guess was also an encoding issue (old non-Unicode fonts in a Unicode world), but that didn't fit will all the symptoms and I never would have guessed the ultimate answer!

GibHenry wrote:
pluby wrote:
I will see if there is a way that I can work around this problem.


Would it be easier to change the font?! Which would conform better to standards?


If you can find a Unicode version of the font, I imagine that would fix it (not having seen the font and its encoding; just guessing based on Patrick's report). I'm sure there are also tools to do this oneself, but I don't know any offhand. Of course, the underlying OOo code making so many assumptions about everything also leaves something to be desired.... Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sardisson wrote:
Because Patrick is a genius! Smile


...or maybe just very persistent and pretty good at using a debugger. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:21 am    Post subject: Genius Reply with quote

pluby wrote:
sardisson wrote:
Because Patrick is a genius! :)


...or maybe just very persistent and pretty good at using a debugger. ;)

Patrick


Yeah, well, being "pretty good at using a debugger" constitutes genius in my book! Cheers,

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Genius Reply with quote

GibHenry wrote:
pluby wrote:
sardisson wrote:
Because Patrick is a genius! Smile


...or maybe just very persistent and pretty good at using a debugger. Wink

Patrick


Yeah, well, being "pretty good at using a debugger" constitutes genius in my book!


In mine, too! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Genius Reply with quote

sardisson wrote:
GibHenry wrote:
pluby wrote:
sardisson wrote:
Because Patrick is a genius! Smile


...or maybe just very persistent and pretty good at using a debugger.


Yeah, well, being "pretty good at using a debugger" constitutes genius in my book!


In mine, too! Very Happy


Hear, hear!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gib,

FYI. I found a simple way to detect valid glyphs with a glyph ID of 3 so that they will get displayed.

I will put the fix in the next patch.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pluby wrote:
Gib,

FYI. I found a simple way to detect valid glyphs with a glyph ID of 3 so that they will get displayed.

I will put the fix in the next patch.

Patrick


Terrif! Thanks! Cheers,

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to mention that your Type 1 font also prints and saves as PDF perfectly (I made sure by uninstalling the TrueType font that sent me before starting Neo/J).

This confirms that Neo/J now has better font support than OOo X11 (it can only save TrueType fonts in PDF files).

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pluby wrote:
...your Type 1 font also prints and saves as PDF perfectly (I made sure by uninstalling the TrueType font that sent me before starting Neo/J)...


Hmmm...MICR, right? Does the Type 1 version have the same glyph 3 issue? I can't remember whether it came in both versions, or whether I converted from one to the other using [engage WayBack] FontMonger [disengage WayBack]. Cheers,

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I am using MICR and typing numbers. The style of this font reminds my of my old job many years ago when I worked in an accounting department. Smile

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