Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: What is Needed to Assist with Development of NeoOffice/J?
I'm willing to donate some time and put my Mac up for sacrifice (yes, I've been at this for a while and you would not believe what I've been through) to assist with NeoOffice/J development. However, I need to know what is needed as far as software in order to develop NeoOffice/J. What software packages are needed? And where do I go to get the sources?
BTW, if you are really interested, I was testing software for another project, many years ago, and the program accidentally wiped out the root directory on a different operating system. Left the system completely broke. Luckily, I was smart and had a restorable backup of the entire system. Took about a day to bring the system back up. And I'm willing to do this again, although I think that NeoOffice/J is well beyond this.
First, just try to build Neo/J using the instructions at http://www.planamesa.com/neojava/build.php. The only change that you need to make is to use "-r HEAD" instead of "-r NeoOfficeJ-1_1_Release_Candidate" in the cvs command.
First, just try to build Neo/J using the instructions at http://www.planamesa.com/neojava/build.php. The only change that you need to make is to use "-r HEAD" instead of "-r NeoOfficeJ-1_1_Release_Candidate" in the cvs command.
Patrick
Thanks, Patrick. I thought that I might need the Eclipse framework or some other additional software packages.
Actually, I was correct. I'm having a 'fit' trying to get the developer tools since most of them have been replaced with stuff for Tiger. I'm going to look tomorrow for them.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:33 am Post subject: Re: What is Needed to Assist with Development of NeoOffice/J
jjmckenzie51 wrote:
I'm willing to donate some time and put my Mac up for sacrifice (yes, I've been at this for a while and you would not believe what I've been through) to assist with NeoOffice/J development.
Woohoo! Very happy to see you sink your teeth into this. I hope you will quickly be able to find something to start with and get to know the code. Good luck and welcome aboard!
Sadly, I cannot help you with a choice of literature. Last serious programming I did was back on an Amiga 500..
Best wishes,
Oscar _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
"I think it would be a good idea!"
- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:17 am Post subject: Re: What is Needed to Assist with Development of NeoOffice/J
ovvldc wrote:
jjmckenzie51 wrote:
I'm willing to donate some time and put my Mac up for sacrifice (yes, I've been at this for a while and you would not believe what I've been through) to assist with NeoOffice/J development.
Woohoo! Very happy to see you sink your teeth into this. I hope you will quickly be able to find something to start with and get to know the code. Good luck and welcome aboard!
Sadly, I cannot help you with a choice of literature. Last serious programming I did was back on an Amiga 500..
Best wishes,
Oscar
Hmmm. Let's see. I learnt to program in BASIC on a HP 300(0) a long time ago. I've been at this for a long time. However, I do have a concern and that is the fact that the build documents call for gcc 3.3 and from what I gather from the Developer site, the 2002 Mac Developer package only comes with 3.1. I was looking at XCode and it comes with 3.3 but is a very large download. Guess I will have to Google again to find this program without the large (CD sized) download.
Also, Googling led me to Amazon.com which seems to have a rather good collection of Cocoa books. I think I will look there for Carbon books too.
And lastly, who thought of Gzipping the documents on the To-Do site? Stuffit Expander brings the .sxw files out as a folder, not as a document. Can this be fixed?
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:13 am Post subject: Re: What is Needed to Assist with Development of NeoOffice/J
jjmckenzie wrote:
Hmmm. Let's see. I learnt to program in BASIC on a HP 300(0) a long time ago.
Hey, I did assembly on a C64 before that.. Those were *really* old days. I was barely in my teens.
jjmckenzie wrote:
I was looking at XCode and it comes with 3.3 but is a very large download. Guess I will have to Google again to find this program without the large (CD sized) download.
Are you working from a dail-up?
jjmckenzie wrote:
And lastly, who thought of Gzipping the documents on the To-Do site? Stuffit Expander brings the .sxw files out as a folder, not as a document. Can this be fixed?
Ehm, nobody did, they are supposed to be like that. The OOo document format is a GZip file. You can extract it normally and see all the document components in it. What you want to do is save them in a file, not run them through stuffit and then just send them into Neo/J.
Is that the dashboardbuddha site? In that case, maybe Ed needs to change his mimetypes to stop the file from being sent to stuffit.
Good luck,
Oscar _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
"I think it would be a good idea!"
- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: Re: What is Needed to Assist with Development of NeoOffice/J
ovvldc wrote:
Hey, I did assembly on a C64 before that.. Those were *really* old days. I was barely in my teens.
Hehehe I learnt to program in assembly for the TRS-80 MOD III. I also learnt to program in 'c' on it too.
jjmckenzie wrote:
I was looking at XCode and it comes with 3.3 but is a very large download. Guess I will have to Google again to find this program without the large (CD sized) download.
ovvldc wrote:
Are you working from a dail-up?
Kinda. Its a service provided by my cellular provider. I get a better data rate than a dial-up connection but it does not have the stability of DSL/Cable. I got a data rate of 12.5KB/s from the Apple Developer site this morning.
jjmckenzie wrote:
And lastly, who thought of Gzipping the documents on the To-Do site? Stuffit Expander brings the .sxw files out as a folder, not as a document. Can this be fixed?
ovvldc wrote:
Ehm, nobody did, they are supposed to be like that. The OOo document format is a GZip file. You can extract it normally and see all the document components in it. What you want to do is save them in a file, not run them through stuffit and then just send them into Neo/J.
No, they are the documents from Trinity. They end in .sxw.gz. I think they should be plain .sxw files which will call NeoOffice/J.
ovvldc wrote:
Good luck,
Oscar
Thanks. I'm going to search for information on Carbon on the Apple site this evening. I'm looking for well documented example code. I hate code that is not documented, leaving one to either scratch one's head or pull one's hair out.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:49 am Post subject: Re: What is Needed to Assist with Development of NeoOffice/J
jjmckenzie wrote:
And lastly, who thought of Gzipping the documents on the To-Do site? Stuffit Expander brings the .sxw files out as a folder, not as a document. Can this be fixed?
ovvldc wrote:
Ehm, nobody did, they are supposed to be like that. The OOo document format is a GZip file.
No, they are the documents from Trinity. They end in .sxw.gz. I think they should be plain .sxw files which will call NeoOffice/J.
1. Yes, Ed's specs on dashboardbuddha are gzipped for some bizarre and unknown reason.
2. The OOo file format is "plain" zip, not gzip.
3. Tell StuffIt Expander not to "keep expanding" or something like that, or just zip the folder back up.
Smokey _________________ "[...] whether the duck drinks hot chocolate or coffee is irrelevant." -- ovvldc and sardisson in the NeoWiki
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: What is Needed to Assist with Development of NeoOffice/J
sardisson wrote:
1. Yes, Ed's specs on dashboardbuddha are gzipped for some bizarre and unknown reason.
Is that the server not serving them properly? Or is there a collection of documents inside a .gz which is them recursively unpacked?
sardisson wrote:
2. The OOo file format is "plain" zip, not gzip.
OK. I don't really know the difference, to be honest. All of these zip formats may have different performance but I just toss them into StuffIt.
sardisson wrote:
3. Tell StuffIt Expander not to "keep expanding" or something like that, or just zip the folder back up.
Right click, make an archive and change the extension...
Thanks for the correction . Good thing I am not an oracle anymore.. _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
"I think it would be a good idea!"
- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 4752 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject:
I gzip them because I've found, in general, more webservers are set up properly to deliver the binary ".gz" extensions as an appropriate MIME type. The standard OOo file formats have extensions that most web servers aren't set up to deliver as octet streams, so instead of coming through and starting a download your browser goes bezerk and displays garbage at you as text in a window
The compression I use isn't for compression's sake, rather for the friendlier MIME type.
Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 4752 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject:
I do host it myself and have my own MIME types configured, but my original intention was that other folks would mirror those specs and docs themselves. Alas, I don't think they ever did...I've just not bothered to put them up in other formats
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You cannot attach files in this forum You cannot download files in this forum
I learnt to program in assembly for the TRS-80 MOD III. I also learnt to program in 'c' on it too.
