NeoWiki in French

[Samwise]

Just to bring this to your attention : as you can see on this page, the French language team for OpenOffice.org didn't bother to translate the component names (Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw & Base) in French.

In the Wiki, Writer is Texteur, Calc is Tableur, Impress is Présentation and Draw is Dessin. I find these translations unnecessary. Texteur doesn't really mean anything in French, and since OpenOffice (or even Microsoft) didn't translate the names, I think it would be better to keep the English names to avoid confusion (and because they sound much better - although that's subjective). Unless they have actually been translated in NeoOffice itself, in which case it would make sense to have them on the Wiki pages.

What I'll do is that I'll change them to the English name when I update French Wiki pages. Feel free to change them back if you think we should keep the translations.

[jakeOSX]

what does OO.o call them? My opinion is we should keep in line with how they are named by the OpenOffice.org group, as that is how they will be labeled elsewhere.

-j, who only knows one french word: Zidane (usually yelled in dispare as his team loses)

[Samwise]

[val1984]

It was Philippe Peret who did the initial translation that translated these names and I didn't bother changing them

[Samwise]

[jakeOSX]

[Samwise]

[sardisson]

It's become apparent that certain parts of the French wiki are massively out-of-date (i.e., they haven't been touched since Neo/J 1.1 was released last June ). Because of that, I've gone ahead and swapped out a few of the links in the Neo box for links to the English equivalents (relnotes, feature comparison).

In preparation for the public release of Aqua Beta, it would be very nice if the following pages were updated or translated:

1) http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/Fr:NeoOffice (this should probably only need a few changes, perhaps even only the ones I made today)
2) A French translation of http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/NeoOffice_Feature_Comparison (the old one was from Neo/J 1.1; I earlier renamed it to indicate that, but today I pointed the link to the English page)
3) http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/Fr:NeoOffice_et_Aqua (needs an update; in pretty good shape but some old changes still missing)
4) Fix any page titles that still have /J in them

5) It would be great to get http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/Fr:NeoOffice_Support translated (the page is stubbed in, but all the text and links are still in English); this is a much larger undertaking, however, since a lot of those FAQ answers are not translated

There are other pages out there which are out-of-date, but these are the big ones we should try to have "fixed"....

I wish I could help more with the actual work myself, but my French is just not good enough

Merci beaucoup!
Smokey

[val1984]

I'll try to remember to translate but I am a bit busy this month (I have to write my placement report).

[Samwise]

When I decided to help with the French Wiki, I didn't realize in what awful shape it was

I probably won't be able to help much until Thursday (away from home again), but I will see what has been done then and do as much as possible of what's left (not sure I'll touch too many FAQs though).

[Samwise]

From what I can see, the situation of the French feature comparison pages is as follows :

Fr:NeoOffice links directly to NeoOffice Feature Comparison

Fr:Comparaison des fonctionnalites redirects to [url=http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/Fr:Comparaison_des_fonctionnalites_(NeoOffice/J_1.1)]Fr:Comparaison des fonctionnalites (NeoOffice/J 1.1)[/url]

I don't know of any new feature comparison page for the French wiki, so I added my own ([url=http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/Comparaisondesfonctionnalités-temp]Comparaisondesfonctionnalités-temp[/url] - sorry for the name but this is not a page that will ever be linked to), since we will need a new page to hold temporary translation of the page (unless someone can translate it all at once, but I'd much rather do it step by step).

I understand that we could bring the existing page up-to-date, but if I start the translation/update (which I was about to do today before I got confused), I'd rather copy/paste the current English page and translate it directly, using the current French page as a reference. Before I proceed (assuming I find some time to do it as I have today), I'd like to know what you think about this (?).

[sardisson]

Yeah, that sounds good. Translate the current English page into -temp (using the 1.1 page as a guide for consistency), and then when the translation is done, move -temp to Fr:Comparaison_des_fonctionnalites and update Fr:NeoOffice and Template:Fr:NeoOfficeDescp to point to the newly-translated page rather than the English version.

The redirect was done when I discovered the Fr page was a 1.1 and wanted to make it very clear that page was old (moving/renaming a page automatically generates a redirect), and then as a very small part of Ray's "10-hour madness" I pointed the Fr:NeoOffice and Fr:Comparaison_des_fonctionnalites links to the English page instead of the ancient 1.1 page

Smokey

[sardisson]

FYI: I've had a couple of folks with French-sounding names/emails asking about/starting the process to get wiki accounts this week, so hopefully we'll have a few more folks working on keeping the French wiki up-to-date shortly

Thanks again to all our wiki authors/editors!

Smokey

[Samwise]

This is good news, especially since I won't be available to translate much on the Wiki in the next few weeks/months. I told Patrick that I would translate all (or at least, the most important) French pages on planamesa.com (since they are in French/English - i.e., Frenglish or Engrench ), but then I'll need to concentrate on my studies, and hopefully (if I've got enough time left) on improving my poor programming skills ...

[sardisson]