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NeoWiki: French to English translation
 
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Lorinda
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject:

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jgd
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject:

I've translated the Es/Fr (maybe It too) article
"Additionner des Cellules en Format Heure dans un Document Calc" into English.
Is the title
"Adding_Time_Formatted_Cells_in_a_Calc_Document"
grammatically correct ? Oh, the grammar !!!

Thanks

Jacqueline
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Lorinda
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject:

The only problem with the title is that it is somewhat ambiguous.

When I first read the title, I immediately assumed that it referred to adding cells to a calc document (i.e. Insert>Cells), and specifying that they were time-formatted cells.

Then I remembered a recent discussion here about adding times in Calc.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I've got a good alternative suggestion for you.
The best I can manage at the moment is:

Performing Addition With Time Formatted Cells in Calc

This presumes that the article only involves addition, not subtraction of times. But it still seems awkward to me. (I've changed the preposition after "Addition" more times than I can count, and am still not happy with my choice.) Maybe someone else can suggest a better title, or maybe I'll have a better idea when I've had a chance to sleep on it.

Lorinda
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jgd
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject:

Lorinda wrote:
The only problem with the title is that it is somewhat ambiguous.

When I first read the title, I immediately assumed that it referred to adding cells to a calc document (i.e. Insert>Cells), and specifying that they were time-formatted cells.

Then I remembered a recent discussion here about adding times in Calc.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I've got a good alternative suggestion for you.
The best I can manage at the moment is:

Performing Addition With Time Formatted Cells in Calc

This presumes that the article only invovles addition, not subtraction of times. But it still seems awkward to me. (I've changed the preposition after "Addition" more times than I can count, and am still not happy with my choice.) Maybe someone else can suggest a better title, or maybe I'll have a better idea when I've had a chance to sleep on it.

Lorinda


Thanks Lorinda.
It seems that your suggestion is a good one. I did not think that "to add" can mean "to insert". "Additionner" is not ambiguous in French.
Yes, the article only involves calculation of the sum of cells.
I'll wait a bit. Sleep well Very Happy

Jacqueline
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Samwise
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject:

What about Addition Of Time Formatted Cells in Calc ?

Or Operations With Time Formatted Cells in Calc (I assume you can also susbtract time-formatted cells) ?
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sardisson
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject:

Samwise wrote:
What about Addition Of Time Formatted Cells in Calc ?

Or Operations With Time Formatted Cells in Calc (I assume you can also susbtract time-formatted cells) ?


I think "operations" by itself can still be a bit hard to grasp at first; how about

Mathematical Operations with Time-Formatted Cells in Calc

or

Performing Mathematical Operations with Time-Formatted Cells in Calc

(which is a bit more precise, but also longer/wordier)?

Smokey

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jgd
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject:

Thanks Lorinda, Samwise and Smokey.

The article involves only addition. Substraction can't be processed in the same way. It's very different from addition. So Mathemetical Operations would be wrong.
I think that Samwise's suggestion "Addition of Time-Formatted Cells in Calc" is good, (with Smokey's "-" between Time and Formatted) Smile

Jacqueline
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jgd
Agent Smith


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:30 am    Post subject:

And eventually it's Performing Additions of Time-Formatted Cells in Calc

because "Addition" is as ambiguous as "Adding". I think that "Performing Additions" can't be mistaken for "Inserting".
Of course, feel free to rename it Wink
And it needs some… (you guess what Smile )

Jacqueline
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Samwise
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject:

I just noticed that Addition Of Time Formatted Cells in Calc was unconsciously inspired from Valter's latest topic Embarassed

jgd wrote:
And eventually it's Performing Additions of Time-Formatted Cells in Calc


But wouldn't Performing Additions on/with Time-Formatted Cells be better ? I'm not sure you can perform something of something ...
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jgd
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject:

Oh… Maybe you are right. I let Smokey or Lorinda rename the page if necessary.
En français : on fait la somme d'une plage de cellules. Donc je voulais dire exactement : faire (perform) la-somme-de-cellules-formatées etc. et j'ai traduit "somme_de_cellules" par "addition_of_cells", un peu littéralement, probablement…
Je ne suis pas sûre d'être très claire Sad
Votre anglais est meilleur que le mien, donc vous devez avoir raison. Wait and see.
Merci pour la collaboration. Smile

Jacqueline
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Samwise
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject:

En fait, la traduction littérale de somme de cellules est sum of cells, pas addition of cells.

Mais ici, je pense que c'est la traduction faire = performing qui pose problème.
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jgd
Agent Smith


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject:

Alors la meilleure traduction serait

"Sums of Time-Formatted Cells in Calc"

(Décidément, la version est plus facile que le thème. Mais on y arrivera…)

Jacqueline
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Samwise
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject:

Là, on s'éloigne du titre de la page française. Attendons de voir ce que les autres en pensent ...
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jgd
Agent Smith


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject:

Smokey changed for "Performing Addition with Time-Formatted Cells in Calc".

So, now it's correct. At last. And Samwise was right: "of" is wrong. And thanks for having helped me.

Jacqueline
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Lorinda
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject:

I'm working on the paragraph styles article.

Am I correct that "Coupure des mots en fin de ligne" refers to hyphenation?
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