NeoWiki: Proposed Style Guide changes

sardisson · Town Crier Joined: Feb 01, 2004 Posts: 4588

Hi everyone,

I spent a bit of time today working on the templates for different UI features we often have to describe in Neo, and I think they're in pretty decent shape.

I'd like everyone to have a look at the Style and Formatting Guide (which displays the new templates) and let me know what you think.

Window and button both use -moz/-webkit-border-radius properties to make them round-ish, but they degrade OK (IMHO) to distinct items in Safari 1.3.x and presumably in other browsers not supporting these properties (iirc, shipping versionsâ€”rather than just WebKit trunkâ€”of WebKit browsers on 10.4 support these, but I'd appreciate someone verifying in Safari 2 and OmniWeb 5.5.x).

Button I went with a blue-ish color to evoke the idea of Aqua buttons, and prefs are grey because they typically are text on a grey background. Window is also grey to evoke the idea of the titlebar (boy do I wish background-image and background-repeat were allowed, so we could get the gradient rather than a flat grey...). Menu is just templatizing the existing menu rule (bold) so that if we ever want to change it, we can simply change the template rather than every mention of a menu/menu item Wink

If everyone thinks these are OK, we can begin the process of back-porting them to all of the articles in the wiki Exclamation

Smokey

Lorinda · Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject:

I added a template importing method to http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/Editing_Default_Styles_and_Using_Templates#Importing_Templates

I tred to follow the new guidelines for templates; not sure if I got everything right. I like the button and preferences templates. I find the dialog title template a bit distracting/unnecessary. --Just my two cents, and from someone relatively unfamiliar with wikis, so my opinion may not count much. Smile

jakeOSX · Ninja Joined: Aug 12, 2003 Posts: 1373

if i could get the wiki at work i'd have more constructive input. rather i'll simply throw in my confidence in smokey's work. (see previous play post)

the biggest thing is consistency, and i think we've done a good job at that so far. And of course reusablilty, which i know we've done (hello blue box!)

-j

RoyFocker · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:53 am Post subject:

I like it...! It's very easy to understand...

I'm a wikipedist on the spanish "wikipedia", and there's many groups of bottons that you can use and add to apply "templates", there's a way to add them into "our" wiki...? Wink

jgd · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:51 am Post subject:

I'd like "rounded" rectangles, more Mac-like than "squared" rectangles which look a bit Win/Lin. Is it possible without a lot of work ?

Why not create a new forum "NeoWiki" and move into it all the topics related with the wiki (topics about It/Es/De/Fr/translations + this one +â€¦) ? (just a suggestion)

Jacqueline

Samwise · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:38 am Post subject:

The "Window" and "Button" templates look noticeably different in Safari (2.0.4) than in Camino 1.0.3 (they look somewhat rounded in Camino, and rectangular in Safari).

BTW I like the "Window" template as I see it in Camino, but I find the "Button" template unattractive in both browsers ...

jgd · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:24 am Post subject:

sardisson · Town Crier Joined: Feb 01, 2004 Posts: 4588

Can I get a screenshot in Safari 2.0.4? Perhaps the -webkit CSS properties were only on Webkit trunk, but so much of the web talks about them, without saying "you can't use them now"....

Jacqueline, what browser are you using? Button should be rounded (see above), and is for sure in Gecko, and Window should have the top corners rounded.

Edit: I see you posted while I was writing that.

I wonder what's up with the Webkit properties? Can someone try changing/adding the Webkit ones to -khtml-foo and see if that works in Safari 2?

Smokey

sardisson · Town Crier Joined: Feb 01, 2004 Posts: 4588

Samwise · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:35 am Post subject:

in Safari 2.0.4.

jgd · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject:

In Firefox 2.0.0.1

Jacqueline

Lorinda · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject:

Do we have a final decision on these style guidelines? I just realized that I haven't been using these templates on the page I'm currently translating. It's a simple fix, but it would be nice to know before I finish the page.

sardisson · Town Crier Joined: Feb 01, 2004 Posts: 4588

Samwise didn't like the look of Button, and I guess people generally were unhappy with the squarish look in Safari (which really can't be fixed easily now, but will be fixed automatically when the next version of Safari comes out)....

Given that they're implemented as templates, I think we can really go ahead and start using them and when we agree on final styles, we can change the templates and all will magically be pretty Wink

Smokey

jgd · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject:

I try to include the "window", "button", "section", etc templates in the wiki. But I'm a bit confused : I don't understand exactly the difference between "section" and "prefName" Crying or Very sad

I don't see any template for the keys "Entry", "F11" etc. Do you plan something for them ?

Jacqueline

sardisson · Town Crier Joined: Feb 01, 2004 Posts: 4588