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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject:

OPENSTEP wrote:
I have no respect for the poor engineering coming out of OOo

Can you please explain this sentence to me?

Pavel
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rays
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject:

In responding, please avoid triggering yet another flame-war....

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject:

rays wrote:
In responding, please avoid triggering yet another flame-war....


I don't see any need to respond. I cited a rather specific example to which my comments were directed.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject:

fabriziovenerandi wrote:
This means openoffice.org > 2.1 upgrades are not scheduled to be integrated in neooffice at all?


As of now there are no plans to pursue OOo 2.2; in general we do not track OOo updates. This has never been our priority and that still isn't going to change.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject:

By the way, I'd like to apologise for the divisive nature of my earlier post (about the release dates of OOo/Neo); though it was in a sense tongue-in-cheek, it also had an edge to it that I'm not proud of - I was having a bad day. Mea culpa.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject:

No worries, we all have bad days at times. Some of us more often then others Smile I didn't see anything divisive in the post at all, but I guess we all interpret things in different ways.

ed
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject:

OPENSTEP wrote:
fabriziovenerandi wrote:
This means openoffice.org > 2.1 upgrades are not scheduled to be integrated in neooffice at all?


As of now there are no plans to pursue OOo 2.2; in general we do not track OOo updates. This has never been our priority and that still isn't going to change.

ed


So let me see what your saying

- Even though NeoOffice is built on OpenOffice, and NeoOffice could not survive without OpenOffice, you do not track OOo updates or care less about OpenOffice development ???? Shocked

- You have no desire to allow the NeoOffice community to benefit from any OpenOffice updates or development.

- We who try and support NeoOffice could be stuck at OOo 2.2 code inside NeoOffice for years to come ???


mmmmm really encourages me to donate/support NeoOffice.


You really need to get out of your ivory tower, accept the fact that yes OpenOffice is not perfect, neither is the code, neither is alot of things.

But having a native Aqua port of the latest version of OpenOffice via NeoOffice is a good thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject:

i'll feed this one.

it is not about desire, but about resources.

if neooffice can compile with oo.o2.2 with no issues, then it works out fine. no issues. in the history of neooffice, i'm not sure that has ever happened. inherently, even through the .1 updates, they change enough things that code needs to be reworked.

oo.o2.2 is a point update. this isn't the 1.1 -> 2.0 jump where there were FEATURES! this is more of a eh... features update. i'd rather have native fonts and save dialoges.

this is not without precedent. there have been many openoffice.org versions that neooffice has skipped. not every point release from openoffice.org is worth the resources to encorporate it.

don't worry, there will be a neoffice based on a higher version of openoffice.org. if oo.o 2.2 has things you NEED, then there is the X11 version. this is why opensource is good, it gives you the choice. do you need the native aspects? or the newest features?

as for the native port, well, i wrote a play about that.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject:

jakeOSX wrote:

this is not without precedent. there have been many openoffice.org versions that neooffice has skipped. not every point release from openoffice.org is worth the resources to encorporate it.


Don't forget the bugs they add with each release. They take up a bit of Patrick and Ed's time.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject:

MacRat wrote:
Don't forget the bugs they add with each release. They take up a bit of Patrick and Ed's time.

Only "a bit"? Razz Evil or Very Mad

Smokey

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