Reorganizing the Component Pages

[Lorinda]

For some time, I've been thinkng about revamping the Components pages in the wiki.

I'd like to
-update/clean up the current text
-move the component specific tips over to the appropriate component page
-add a section to each page for external tip links (I just did this for Writer and Impress)
-add a section to each page for documentation/user guides (I think this has already been done in some instances)

Does this make sense to do?

I'm not sure how quickly I'll get it done, especially since I have another wiki project in mind, too. But I wanted to get "clearance" before I started messing too much with those pages.

Lorinda

[ovvldc]

Hi Lorinda,

Sounds excellent!

Best wishes,
Oscar

[sardisson]

I like very much the idea of cleaning up the individual component pages; with the exception of Math (on which Jacqueline did a fantastic job), they're all in need of some major work.

I'm a bit concerned about removing the component-specific tips from the main tips page, hiding them further back in the wiki.

Also, on an unrelated note, any reason you added the vertical text external link to the Writer page instead of the Bidi and vertical text article?

Smokey

[Lorinda]

[sardisson]

Wow, I hadn't realized how long that page had gotten! It's now two screens of component-specific hints here, and another screen or so of general tips. Hard-working magical wiki elves indeed!

So maybe we do want to move them off, after all, to help control page size? If so, we should prominently note that hints specific to using the various components can be found on those pages.

Smokey

[LemonAid]

[jgd]

About the math section: (Thanks Smokey…)

Some English pages have not been polished. They are in Fixme category. I just polished myself a bit (I've a disastrous habit to "customize" the English order of words ).
If someone can polish them, Thanks a lot.

Jacqueline

[Lorinda]

I've moved over the applicable tips to the NeoBase page. If it looks o.k. as is, I'll remove the fixme tag. I'd like a longer description of Base at the top, but I'm not sure what else to say, and I'm a bit out of my league to go into more detail. (I'm hoping my current Base project will slowly change that).

I only moved over tips that related to Neo 2.0. There are lots of tips under "database" that relate to Neo 1.2. I'm guessing they should be removed from the Tips and Hints page, but still made accesible somehow? Is there a protocol for "archiving" articles relating to older versions of Neo?

If you click on this link, you will see a "handbook sidebar" listing related articles. It shows up on several of the Databases pages. The syntax is {{handbook sidebar|DatabaseTOC}}. I like the idea of having this sidebar on the component-specific tips and hints pages, but I have no idea how to specify what goes in the TOC list. If someone can point me in the right direction, I will work on creating an appropriate handbook sidebar.

Lorinda

[sardisson]

Lorinda, just make sure the old database articles are linked on the Legacy Information page, under the correct version of Neo, and they can be removed (however, it looks to me like all of them listed there are still relevant for Neo 2.x, though creating a dbase database might not be the best way to approach making a database).

DatabaseTOC is just another wiki page (template, actually, but still set up like any other page): Template:DatabaseTOC; just make a new template with a list of links of all the pages you want in the sidebar, and the parent handbook sidebar template takes care of the rest.

Smokey

[Lorinda]

Smokey,

Thanks for the answers. I'll try to take a look at the Databases articles again in the next few days and see if there are others that should be added to the NeoBase component page. I may rename the Configuring and Using Databases page to something about connecting to other database formats (dbase, access, etc.), or create a new page with some of the info there.

Unfortunately I'm hampered by the fact that I know nothing about connecting to other databases. In most cases I'll have to leave those pages the way they are, as I don't have the expertise to bring them up to date. (I'll still set up the links on the NeoBase page, though)

Lorinda

[sardisson]

[Lorinda]

I went back over the links from the Configuring and Using Databases page, and moved the ones that looked like they still applied to 2.1 to the NeoBase page. Everything else went on the Legacy page, in the appropriate place.

I created a new page for the dbf and Access tips on the Configuring and Using Databases page.

The Databases section on the Tips and Hints page has been deleted.

I just realized that I forgot to add a warning to the TIps and Hints that we are moving component specific tips. I'll go back and do that.

Lorinda

[Lorinda]

The component specific hints have now all been moved to the appropriate component pages.

Some of the component pages could use some more fleshing out. Thanks to Jacqueline for her work on the Math page; I didn't need to do anything there.

But all the rest could probably do with expanded descriptions of the components.

Lorinda

[Lorinda]

I was adding a link to the NeoBase page when I realized that all the component pages still have fixmes attached. Most fixmes were applied before the reorganization. Can I safely remove them now?

Rereading this thread, I realized that I never added the handbook box with TOC links. As much as those pages get modified, I'm not sure I want to bother.

I'll probably add one to the "To Base and Back Again" pages, although I might wait until I'm done.

Lorinda

[jgd]