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Infinity
Blue Pill


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: smartdraw

Hi,
I'm a new mac user, and my son's school is plannning to use smartdraw to teach geography. According to the smartdraw website, there is no Mac compatible version. I realize that I could buy windows and install it on my macbook, but golly!

Is there a drawing format in NeoOffice that can be imported to SmartDraw?
Is there another program similar to Neo Office that can do this, as far as anyone here knows?

Thanks so much. Knowing about your product was the "clincher" in my decision to try my first Apple computer. Smile

Thanks -
Infinty (who posts as Trinity on other boards in tribute to my favorite movie)
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sardisson
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Town Crier


Joined: Feb 01, 2004
Posts: 4588

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject:

Well, the SmartDraw website doesn't really seem to indicate what sort of file formats it can read. This page in our wiki lists the file formats NeoOffice can open and save (or export). Regarding geography specifically, this French site has several collections of maps for NeoOffice Draw and Impress.

It actually looks like the software is something like OmniGraffle, which is a very nice business-oriented drawing program on the Mac (and which once upon a time was included free on pro Macs). Not free or open source, but very much quality software. (There's also ConceptDraw, but I'm not familiar with it.)

Smokey

(A little ironic it doesn't run on Macs give the PowerBook/MBP in the picture here Wink)

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Infinity
Blue Pill


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject:

Thanks for the helpful reply. I emailed SmartDraw to see what sorts of files they can read and save as.
I looked at Omni Graffel and it seems very good.
I looked at the French site, and saw Atlas 00o2, which is impressive, but wasn't sure if I need to download it, or I already have in as part of NeoDraw? I was thinking that I "should" be able to translate the page (bablefish?) but realized that I don't know how to do that either. Embarassed

So now I'm looking for more help on translating french sites, and Atlas 00o2 information. Very Happy

Thanks again,
Infinity
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yoxi
Cipher


Joined: Sep 07, 2004
Posts: 1799
Location: Dawlish, Devon

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject:

AtlasOOo2 is a collection of map graphics files that you download and put in your OpenOffice/NeoOffice gallery, after which you have access to them from within the app as the bases for Draw images or Impress slides.

- padmavyuha
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jgd
Agent Smith


Joined: Feb 27, 2005
Posts: 1531
Location: France

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject:

Infinity wrote:

So now I'm looking for more help on translating french sites, and Atlas 00o2 information. Very Happy

I'm not able to translate in good English all the French site… But I can help to install atlasooo.

Download the atlasooo.zip, uncompress it and copy all the content, without changing it, in
~/Library/Preferences/NeoOffice-2.2/user/gallery (if you have installed NeoOffice2.2.1 EA)
or
~/Library/Preferences/NeoOffice-2.1/user/gallery.

Quit and relaunch NeoOffice.

But I'm not sure that it can help you, because all the names, legends, etc. are in French and I don't figure out how to change them.

I downloaded the manual, if you have some questions, feel free to ask: I'm a French native speaker and I'll try to help you.

Jacqueline
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yoxi
Cipher


Joined: Sep 07, 2004
Posts: 1799
Location: Dawlish, Devon

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject:

The names, legends etc. are not directly editable as the images are vector graphics created in PaintShop Pro according to their creator.

- padmavyuha
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Infinity
Blue Pill


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject:

sardisson wrote:
Well, the SmartDraw website doesn't really seem to indicate what sort of file formats it can read. This page in our wiki lists the file formats NeoOffice can open and save (or export). Regarding geography specifically, this French site has several collections of maps for NeoOffice Draw and Impress.

It actually looks like the software is something like OmniGraffle, which is a very nice business-oriented drawing program on the Mac (and which once upon a time was included free on pro Macs). Not free or open source, but very much quality software. (There's also ConceptDraw, but I'm not familiar with it.)

Smokey

(A little ironic it doesn't run on Macs give the PowerBook/MBP in the picture here Wink)


Hi Smokey,
I emailed the SmartDraw folks and got this nice reply:
(I have an email in to the school asking if they are using SmartDraw 7 or it's newer SmartDraw 2007, no response yet.)


Here is a listing of the importable file formats into SmartDraw:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-WMF (Windows Metafile)
-EMF (Enhanced Metafile)
-BMP (Bitmap)
-GIF (Graphics Interchange Format)
-PNG (Portable Network Graphics)
-JPEG (Joint Photographic Experts Group)
-TIFF (Tagged Image File Format)

Importable Proprietary Formats:
-------------------------------------
-PCX (PC Paintbrush)
-HGL (HPGL)
-CGM (Computer Graphics Metafile)
-PDF (Portable Document Format)
-VSD (Visio 2000 or earlier format) - Must have "First Page" and
"Detailed Preview" selected in the Visio file properties menu.
-DXF (in AutoCAD 14 format or earlier, AutoCAD 2000 is not supported)
-DWG (in AutoCAD 13 format or earlier, AutoCAD Release 14 and 2000 are
not supported)
-DRW (Micrografx Draw)
-AI (Adobe Illustrator Version 6 or earlier)
-EPS (Encapsulated Postscript)
-CDR (CorelDraw 6 or earlier)

You can export SmartDraw drawings to most common file formats using the
Export feature. To use this feature:

Open any SmartDraw drawing. Then, choose the Export tab on the
top-right corner of SmartDraw. From the Export menu, select one of the major
export options or click the Export dropdown menu button to choose of
the exportable file formats.

SmartDraw 2007 can export to the following file formats:

Windows Metafile (WMF)
Enhanced Metafile (EMF)
Bitmap (BMP)
PC PaintBrush (PCX)
Graphics Interchange Format (GIF)
Portable Network Graphics (PNG)
Joint Photographic Experts Group (JPEG)
Tagged Image File Format (TIFF)
Hyper Text Markup Language (HTML)
(Includes accompanying GIF, PNG or JPG)
Encapsulated Postscript (EPS)
AutoCAD (DXF)
Computer Graphics Metafile (CGM)
Hewlett Packard Graphics Language (HPGL)
Portable Document Format (PDF)
Adobe Illustrator (AI)
MicroGrafx Draw (DRW)

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance and thank you for
contacting SmartDraw.

Here is a listing of the importable file formats into SmartDraw:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-WMF (Windows Metafile)
-EMF (Enhanced Metafile)
-BMP (Bitmap)
-GIF (Graphics Interchange Format)
-PNG (Portable Network Graphics)
-JPEG (Joint Photographic Experts Group)
-TIFF (Tagged Image File Format)

Importable Proprietary Formats:
-------------------------------------
-PCX (PC Paintbrush)
-HGL (HPGL)
-CGM (Computer Graphics Metafile)
-PDF (Portable Document Format)
-VSD (Visio 2000 or earlier format) - Must have "First Page" and
"Detailed Preview" selected in the Visio file properties menu.
-DXF (in AutoCAD 14 format or earlier, AutoCAD 2000 is not supported)
-DWG (in AutoCAD 13 format or earlier, AutoCAD Release 14 and 2000 are
not supported)
-DRW (Micrografx Draw)
-AI (Adobe Illustrator Version 6 or earlier)
-EPS (Encapsulated Postscript)
-CDR (CorelDraw 6 or earlier)

You can export SmartDraw drawings to most common file formats using the
Export feature. To use this feature:

Open any SmartDraw drawing. Then, choose the Export tab on the
top-right corner of SmartDraw. From the Export menu, select one of the major
export options or click the Export dropdown menu button to choose of
the exportable file formats.

SmartDraw 2007 can export to the following file formats:

Windows Metafile (WMF)
Enhanced Metafile (EMF)
Bitmap (BMP)
PC PaintBrush (PCX)
Graphics Interchange Format (GIF)
Portable Network Graphics (PNG)
Joint Photographic Experts Group (JPEG)
Tagged Image File Format (TIFF)
Hyper Text Markup Language (HTML)
(Includes accompanying GIF, PNG or JPG)
Encapsulated Postscript (EPS)
AutoCAD (DXF)
Computer Graphics Metafile (CGM)
Hewlett Packard Graphics Language (HPGL)
Portable Document Format (PDF)
Adobe Illustrator (AI)
MicroGrafx Draw (DRW)

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance and thank you for
contacting SmartDraw.
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Infinity
Blue Pill


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject:

yoxi wrote:
The names, legends etc. are not directly editable as the images are vector graphics created in PaintShop Pro according to their creator.

- padmavyuha

Dear Posters,
Thanks for the information about OO.o Atlas. I think that it wouldn't work in this situation because the nature of the teaching excersize is for the kids to "draw" their own maps, and lable them themselves. Good to know about though.
Thanks,
Infinity
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sardisson
Town Crier
Town Crier


Joined: Feb 01, 2004
Posts: 4588

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject:

Infinity wrote:
Thanks for the information about OO.o Atlas. I think that it wouldn't work in this situation because the nature of the teaching excersize is for the kids to "draw" their own maps, and lable them themselves.

Ah, I wasn't sure what the intent of the exercise might be.

From that list, it seems there's quite a bit of overlap between the SmartDraw-supported formats and NeoOffice-supported formats (as well as other drawing apps). So your son could create his maps in NeoOffice and export them as WMF files (Windows Metafiles; editable vector graphics) and then he or the teachers could open them in SmartDraw....

Smokey

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