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moving paragraph up or down with Control cursor
 
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hard_s
Red Pill


Joined: Jun 09, 2008
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:46 am    Post subject: moving paragraph up or down with Control cursor

Since patch3 I miss the function of moving marked paragraphs up or down within Text with CONTROL CURSOR.

Does anyone knows if it is gone permanently or only uses different keys?
It was very helpfull for me!
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pluby
The Architect
The Architect


Joined: Jun 16, 2003
Posts: 11949

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject:

When you say "marked paragraphs", are you using a Writer document and does "marked" mean you highlighted some text?

Patrick
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hard_s
Red Pill


Joined: Jun 09, 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject:

Yes I mean writer documents, and highlighted passages
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pluby
The Architect
The Architect


Joined: Jun 16, 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject:

I cannot reproduce this behavior with OpenOffice.org 2.2.1 which is what NeoOffice is based on.

What I did find is that if you highlight some text and click and drag, you can drag the highlighted text to a new location.

Patrick
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hard_s
Red Pill


Joined: Jun 09, 2008
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject:

I refer to this functionality described in Neo Office Help

Strg-Alt-Cursor oben
Aktuellen Absatz oder markierte Absätze einen Absatz nach oben schieben.

(Strg)(Alt)(Cursor unten)
Aktuellen Absatz oder markierte Absätze einen Absatz nach unten verschieben.
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Samwise
Captain Naiobi


Joined: Apr 25, 2006
Posts: 2315
Location: Montpellier, France

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject:

What happens if you use Cmd (Apple key) instead of Ctrl?
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jgd
Agent Smith


Joined: Feb 27, 2005
Posts: 1531
Location: France

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject:

That doesn't work either.

Same behavior in RetroOffice 2.2.3.

It works on OpenOffice 2.2.3 on a Windows machine.

Jacqueline
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hard_s
Red Pill


Joined: Jun 09, 2008
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject:

Quote:
What happens if you use Cmd (Apple key) instead of Ctrl?


nothing (the cursor moves up and down)
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yoxi
Cipher


Joined: Sep 07, 2004
Posts: 1799
Location: Dawlish, Devon

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject:

This is the help section in English:



I could find no combination of keys in my en_GB installation that would trigger this behaviour in OSX.

hard_S, you said that you missed this functionality since patch 3 - what keys were you using to get it before that?

Meanwhile, if you want to assign this behaviour to your own choice of keyboard shortcut:

Go to Tools::Customise, and select the Keyboard tab
In the Category panel, select Numbering
To assign 'move active para up one (with its subpoints)' you need to choose the 2nd entry that's called Move Up in Subpoints (the 1st one doesn't seem to do anything), and assign it to a key combo.
Likewise with the 2nd Move Down in Subpoints to go the other way.

The toolbar has 2 buttons for each direction; my above instructions make a shortcut that does the equivalent of clicking the toolbar button that has a double arrow on it. I've no idea why there are two identically named options for each in the Customise panel - unless the 1st one of each, which does nothing, is supposed to move a para without its subpoints, which is what the single-arrow button does in the toolbar.

This is kind of messed up in OpenOffice, so it's probably inherited behaviour in NeoOffice. Even in OOo v3 beta, the 1st Move Down in Subpoints actually moves an item right with its subpoints, i.e. down a level, not down a paragraph. Weird.

- padmavyuha
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pluby
The Architect
The Architect


Joined: Jun 16, 2003
Posts: 11949

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject:

Thanks for investigating this yoxi.What I found was that there are two things here:

1. The documentation is wrong. It should be Command-Alt-Up and Command-Alt-Down. This is another case where the OpenOffice.org documentation writer's hardcoded "Ctrl" in the help files instead of using their own standard of putting "if MAC "Command" else "Ctrl".

2. The Command-Alt-arrow keys stopped working in Patch 3 due to my fix for bug 3018. I was able to limit that fix so that it does not break the Command-Alt-arrow functionality.

I think that I have restored the Command-Alt-arrow functionality in the following test patch. Do the Command-Alt-arrow keys now work?:

PowerPC:
http://jane.neooffice.org/test/NeoOffice-2.2.3-Patch-6-Test-4-PowerPC.dmg

Intel:
http://jane.neooffice.org/test/NeoOffice-2.2.3-Patch-6-Test-4-Intel.dmg

On a side note, I reported bug 89005 in OpenOffice.org's IssueZilla and posted the solution for them. However, I have seen no response so I doubt OpenOffice.org is doing anything to fix these documentation bugs. Sad

Patrick
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jgd
Agent Smith


Joined: Feb 27, 2005
Posts: 1531
Location: France

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject:

It works for me.

Thanks Smile

Jacqueline
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hard_s
Red Pill


Joined: Jun 09, 2008
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject:

Intel Patch works for me!

You are great!

Hartmut Very Happy Very Happy
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