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James3359 The Merovingian
Joined: Jul 05, 2005 Posts: 685 Location: North West England
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: Crash when attempting to drag chart |
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iBook 1.33 GHz PowerPC 512MB RAM OS X 10.4.11 NO 2.2.4 Patch 3
I am getting what I think is a repeatable crash. I set up a spreadsheet with some data to try something out in a chart. There are three columns of data, and in some rows the second and third columns are blank. I choose insert chart and create a line diagram (B-spline with symbols). The lines in the chart are broken where there is no data in columns 2 and 3. When I attempt to resizing the chart by dragging a corner seems to be OK, but when I put the cursor in the centre of the chart and attempt to drag the whole chart, my iBook starts chuntering away and everything starts moving extremely slowly and erratically. I have not been able to launch Activity Monitor to see what is happening. The first time NO crashed it generated a crash log. The second time it crashed no log was generated, but I have saved the console log.
I rolled back from the test patch (4) which I have been using in case it was that which caused the problem (Patrick's optimisation of drawing routines to speed up Impress), but the problem is still there.
This is not a major issue for me since it is not something I plan to do much. But the crash process is extremely long drawn out - a 'put the kettle on' job. For that reason I am not keen to test it further.
Should I file this as a bug? |
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amayze The Merovingian
Joined: Oct 24, 2005 Posts: 561 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: |
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I've tried to reproduce this crash, but haven't succeeded yet. However I have noticed a slight cosmetic problem with the Chart Type dialogue.
Double Click on a chart
Right click and choose "Chart Type…"
In the dialogue that appear there are two scrolling areas.
The first shows the available chart types, the second the sub-types.
As there are only 8 2D charts and 5 3D ones this area should not have a scroll bar, or if it does the blue lozenge should fill the entire bar.
A minor inconvenience and one possibly caused by an inconsistency in the chart type dialogue - when using the Insert Chart wizard all 13 chart types are displayed together (with the correct size of scroll bar).
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pluby The Architect
Joined: Jun 16, 2003 Posts: 11949
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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There is a good chance that you have system hacks on your machine. System hacks inject themselves into all applications and we have found many cases of system hacks causing NeoOffice in the past.
Can you open the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal application, paste the following commands in the Terminal application window, press the Return key, and paste the output? This will tell us if you have any system hacks:
Code: | ls -l ~/Library/InputManagers
ls -l ~/Library/Application\ Support
ls -l /Library/InputManagers
ls -l /Library/Application\ Support |
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K-9 The Merovingian
Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 571 Location: U.S.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: |
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sorry - I was curious - this is what I have - can you tell me if I have system hacks?
Last login: Thu Aug 7 06:25:09 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
norman--computer:~ norman$ ls -l ~/Library/InputManagers
ls: /Users/norman/Library/InputManagers: No such file or directory
norman--computer:~ norman$ ls -l ~/Library/Application\ Support
total 0
drwx------ 10 normansk normansk 340 Aug 7 10:25 AddressBook
drwxr-xr-x 10 normansk normansk 340 Jun 30 2007 Adobe
drwxr-xr-x 5 normansk normansk 170 Oct 6 2006 Comic Life
drwxrwxrwx 3 normansk normansk 102 Sep 28 2006 Corel
drwxr-xr-x 4 normansk normansk 136 Oct 3 2006 Freeway 4
drwx------ 3 normansk normansk 102 Sep 28 2006 SyncServices
drwxr-xr-x 2 normansk normansk 68 Aug 7 10:27 Terminal
drwxr-xr-x 3 normansk normansk 102 Sep 28 2006 iWeb
drwxr-xr-x 3 normansk normansk 102 Mar 15 2007 iWork
norman--computer:~ norman$ ls -l /Library/InputManagers
ls: /Library/InputManagers: No such file or directory
norman--computer:~ norman$ ls -l /Library/Application\ Support
I may run this on my powerbook just to check...
Thanks and sorry I butted in here...
p.s. my powerbook looks quite similar, has a few different apps on it or not on the list. but the total is zero up on the top before the apps listing and the rwd (permissions) stuff. so I believe this is negative too. Yes? No?
thank you. |
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James3359 The Merovingian
Joined: Jul 05, 2005 Posts: 685 Location: North West England
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: |
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OK here's the output from my iBook Code: | Last login: Thu Aug 7 13:29:39 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
james-richards-ibook-g4:~ jamesrichards$ ls -l ~/Library/InputManagers
ls: /Users/jamesrichards/Library/InputManagers: No such file or directory
james-richards-ibook-g4:~ jamesrichards$ ls -l ~/Library/Application\ Support
total 24
drwxr-xr-x 5 jamesric jamesric 170 Apr 17 2007 2005WorldBook
-rwxrwxrwx 1 jamesric jamesric 146 Jun 3 15:04 838318
-rwxrwxrwx 1 jamesric jamesric 8 Jun 3 15:05 840828
drwx------ 11 jamesric jamesric 374 Aug 7 13:45 AddressBook
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Jan 23 2007 Adobe
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Jan 7 2008 Calculator
drwxr-xr-x 12 jamesric jamesric 408 Apr 17 2007 Chess
drwxr-xr-x 2 jamesric jamesric 68 Jan 31 2006 Contents:MIDI Device Plug-ins
drwxr-xr-x 7 jamesric jamesric 238 Jul 27 07:32 Cyberduck
drwxr-xr-x 4 jamesric jamesric 136 Jan 26 2006 DVD Player
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Jan 14 2008 Expression Media
drwxr-xr-x 2 jamesric jamesric 68 Dec 10 2007 Final Vinyl
drwxr-xr-x 5 jamesric jamesric 170 Dec 7 2007 Firefox
drwxr-xr-x 4 jamesric jamesric 136 Mar 11 17:01 FullCircle
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Jan 31 2006 GarageBand
drwxr-xr-x 5 jamesric jamesric 170 Aug 3 13:49 Google Earth
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Feb 11 2007 Google SketchUp 6
drwxr-xr-x 7 jamesric jamesric 238 Mar 14 2006 GraphicConverter
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Mar 25 12:20 Inquisitor
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Jan 16 2008 Lingon
drwxr-xr-x 4 jamesric jamesric 136 Mar 13 2006 Macromedia
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Feb 3 2007 Missing Sync
drwxr-xr-x 4 jamesric jamesric 136 Dec 29 2005 Nvu
-rw-r--r-- 1 jamesric jamesric 0 Jul 1 11:12 PRIF0128
drwxr-xr-x 4 jamesric jamesric 136 Feb 6 2006 Palm HotSync
drwxr-xr-x 5 jamesric jamesric 170 Jan 23 2007 RadioLover
drwxr-xr-x 2 jamesric jamesric 68 Jul 1 2006 ShadeExplorer
drwx------ 5 jamesric jamesric 170 May 10 2006 Skype
drwx------ 4 jamesric jamesric 136 Feb 9 2006 SyncServices
drwxr-xr-x 2 jamesric jamesric 68 Dec 19 2005 Terminal
drwxr-xr-x 6 jamesric jamesric 204 Sep 10 2007 TextWrangler
drwxr-xr-x 7 jamesric jamesric 238 Jun 20 16:25 Transmission
drwxrwxrwx 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Jun 7 05:58 eSellerate
drwxr-xr-x 9 jamesric jamesric 306 Aug 4 22:46 iCal
drwxr-xr-x 5 jamesric jamesric 170 Jul 19 18:55 iGTD
drwxr-xr-x 8 jamesric jamesric 272 Feb 16 17:22 iRecordMusic
drwxr-xr-x 3 jamesric jamesric 102 Jan 17 2008 iSync
james-richards-ibook-g4:~ jamesrichards$ ls -l /Library/InputManagers
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 May 15 05:19 Inquisitor
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 Mar 25 12:05 SIMBL
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 Mar 15 2007 iCalFix
james-richards-ibook-g4:~ jamesrichards$ ls -l /Library/Application\ Support |
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Samwise Captain Naiobi
Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Montpellier, France
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: |
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You have the following haxies on your machine:
Inquisitor
SIMBL
iCalFix
To disable these haxies, move the following folders (e.g to the Desktop) and reboot:
~/Library/Application Support/Inquisitor/
/Library/InputManagers/Inquisitor/
/Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/
/Library/InputManagers/iCalFix/
After moving these three folders and rebooting, does NeoOffice still crash? |
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narf The Anomaly
Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Posts: 1075
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Code: | drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 May 15 05:19 Inquisitor
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 Mar 25 12:05 SIMBL
drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 Mar 15 2007 iCalFix
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These three folders are system hacks and may be affecting NeoOffice.
Remove them by double-clicking on the main volume icon on your desktop and, in the Finder window that opens, navigate into the /Library/InputManagers folder. In that folder, you should see the folders listed above, move them into the trash and reboot.
Let us know if that makes a difference,
thanks --fran |
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James3359 The Merovingian
Joined: Jul 05, 2005 Posts: 685 Location: North West England
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I removed the three Input Manager folders and rebooted. It didn't crash this time but it did hang. Everything became very sluggish. I did manage to open Activity Monitor and it showed Neo was using up to 85% of CPU, 200+MB of real memory and 1.92 GB of virtual memory. I followed the instructions to sample the NO process which I have saved. Then I did Force Quit - although it was slow to process the instruction.
Where do I go from here? |
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pluby The Architect
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Since we have eliminated system hacks, go ahead and file a bug in Bugzilla and attach the sample that you collected and we will look at it immediately.
Patrick |
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James3359 The Merovingian
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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OK posted - Bug #3179.
Hope it's not just something stupid |
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pluby The Architect
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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James3359 wrote: | OK posted - Bug #3179.
Hope it's not just something stupid |
Unfortunately, it is not something stupid. Instead, it is an OpenOffice.org 2.2.1 bug. For those who haven't seen the bug, I did find that this bug only occurs when you try to move it immediately after creating the chart. So, a workaround is to click outside of the chart and then click the chart to select it. Then any dragging will not hang NeoOffice.
Patrick |
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James3359 The Merovingian
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for looking at this so quickly. I'm glad to see that it is at least a fixed OOo bug and that there is a straightforward work round to use until the next version of NO. |
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