For timing purposes, I'm running a PCI Graphics Yikes! G4 overclocked to 450MHz. 1GB RAM. I experienced "instant" reply on the complete spreedsheet, pages 2 and 3, where page 1 was delayed.
I think you may need to realize that no matter how you cut it, a G4 450 MHz is just going to be slow. The G4 chip is not only two full generations behind the current Intel chips, but your particular chip was one the very low end of that chip's processor speeds.
While NeoOffice may run on that chip, but it will run slow. I suspect that this is one of the reasons that Apple will not allow Mac OS X 10.5 too be installed on that old of a chip.
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:59 am Post subject:
In my original spreadsheet, I moved Page 1 to the last page, and it maintained it's sluggish response, after closing and opening NeoOffice, to refresh memory , etc ...
Page 2 and 3, now in position 1 and 2, maintained their "instant" response.
I would upload the original spreadsheet, but I'm considering publishing it as an aid to practicing jazz, and haven't completed it yet. Want to keep it private until then ...
Thank you for providing a sample document. On my 1.8 Ghz G5 there is no noticeable difference in calculation speed on the first page versus the second and third page. All update immediately.
I think the difference is due to the G4. I found that when I replaced my G4 with a G5 that things such as patch loading was a lot faster.
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:00 am Post subject:
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject:
I believe I figured out part of the issue.
When defining a range for the number of cells to be summed in a column, I used an arbitrary large number for the last cell, being told that NeoOffice would select the last existing cell to sum to. This would allow me to add rows and not have to fix all the formulae for summing the daily totals as my spreadsheet grows, sometimes daily. (NeoOffice does adjust the formula if I delete / add rows up to and between the min and max specified ranges).
After going back and changing the last cell to be summed to, to be the actual cell number in my spreadsheet for that page, all pages exhibit "instant" retrieval and insertion of current time. (This might also appear to be happening on your Quad Core Intel Monster machines, without changing the range ...).
The formula was (page 1):
=60*HOUR(SUM(J4:J202)) + MINUTE(SUM(J4:J202))
and now is (page 1):
=60*HOUR(SUM(J4:J55)) + MINUTE(SUM(J4:J55))
This varied slightly from page to page, but the magnitude of the ranges was similar. Other maximums now(then) are Page 2: 45(195) and Page 3: 75(210).
The overall speedup occurred in the Master copy, after using the Time retrieve function the first time on that page ...
In the copy being used already for this week's recording of times, the same behavior continued, even though I changed the ranges (???).
So ... partially solved.
To optimize things, any hints on how to create a Function or Sub that would allow me to calculate the total Days Minutes would be appreciated:
(I'm questioning my method of computing the Daily Total Minutes as I type: the cells being summed are the task time differences (Q4 = IF(I4>H4; I4-H4;"")) formatted in HH:MM of 2 times ... Start (H4) and Stop (I4) Times, both in HH:MM:SS AM/PM Text format. This doesn't seem to be working if H4 & I4 span midnight).
I'm including all of this in the discussion here, since I'm converting between time formats as times are retrieved and calculations are performed ... all time consuming I am assuming.
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject:
billycar wrote:
Guess I'm talking to myself again ... ('')
Want to clear up why it is instant on some pages, and 6x slower on the other.
The problem is "Page Break View" versus "Normal".
When View > Normal is selected, response is Instant (all pages)
When View > Page Break View is selected, much delay is introduced.
This is repeatable, and occurs with my Master copy as well as my Copy that is being used at present for this weeks rehearsals (and other previous copies).
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