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valterb
The Anomaly
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Joined: Sep 23, 2005
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Location: San Giuliano Terme, Pisa, Italy

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Bitstream Fonts

It seems to me that the new NO 3 EA has compleately changed the Bitstream fonts family.
I'm not able to understand if this is due to a lack of the font (I've checked my font book and there is no "shadow" of Bitstream font) or a change in the internal sustitution table.
Anyway, in NO 2.2.5-p6 in the list of fonts I have the Bitsrram family; I haven't them in the list in NO 3 EA.

Hope what I say is clear enough.
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pluby
The Architect
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Joined: Jun 16, 2003
Posts: 11949

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject:

Starting with OpenOffice.org 3.0, OpenOffice.org stopped shipping Bitstream Vera fonts. Instead, they shipped with two new font families called Deja Vu and Liberation in place of the Bitstream Vera fonts. Unfortunately, we found that these two new fonts can cause the Mac OS X font manager (also known as the ATS server) to crash so we do not ship these new replacement fonts.

Because of this OpenOffice.org change, there are no Bitstream Vera fonts in NeoOffice 3.0 Early Access. However, if you still have NeoOffice 2.2.5 on your machine and you launch it, NeoOffice 3.0 Early Access will be able to see the Bitstream Vera fonts loaded by NeoOffice 2.2.5.

You can permanently install the Bitstream Vera fonts if you have a NeoOffice 2.2.5 installation by going to the NeoOffice 2.2.5's icon in the Finder, Control-clicking on the icon and selecting Show Package Contents in the popup menu. A new Finder window will appear with a Contents folder in it, navigate down into the Contents :: share :: fonts :: truetype subfolder, select all of the "Vera*.ttf" file, press Command-C to copy them, then go to a different folder in the Finder and press Command-V to paste make a copy of the font files.

Select all of the copied font files (selecting the within NeoOffice 2.2.5 will not work) and double-click on the them. This should cause the Font Book application to launch. The Font Book application will ask if you want to install each of the font files. After confirming that you want them installed, the fonts should be permanently installed on your machine.

Patrick
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sardisson
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Joined: Feb 01, 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject:

Deja Vu is an updated derivative of Bitstream Vera, fyi.

(It does seem a little dumb for OOo to explicitly stop shipping things they've shipped for quite some time--and thus encouraged people to use in documents--without also setting up a font replacement table mapping for all of them by default, though. That wouldn't have helped in our case, of course, but were the Deja Vu fonts not corrupt it would have.)

Smokey

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pluby
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject:

sardisson wrote:
Deja Vu is an updated derivative of Bitstream Vera, fyi.

(It does seem a little dumb for OOo to explicitly stop shipping things they've shipped for quite some time--and thus encouraged people to use in documents--without also setting up a font replacement table mapping for all of them by default, though. That wouldn't have helped in our case, of course, but were the Deja Vu fonts not corrupt it would have.)


I thought it was dump of OOo to make their default font a custom font that is not bundled with the operating system. While bundling your own custom font sounds like a simple thing, much of the tangled installation code that we wrote for our installer was to insure that these custom fonts don't confuse the Mac OS X font manager. In spite of all our efforts, you cannot see these dynamically loaded application fonts in Font Book so you cannot always trust that any other applications will be able to use the custom font. Sad

The only reason that we originally left it in there was because the OOo code really, really depended on the Bitstream Vera fonts in OOo 1.1.x and maybe early 2.x.

Patrick
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valterb
The Anomaly
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Joined: Sep 23, 2005
Posts: 463
Location: San Giuliano Terme, Pisa, Italy

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:12 am    Post subject:

Thanks for the explanation and the tip Wink
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MacMacken
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Joined: Jan 22, 2009
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject:

Check out http://www.december14.net/fonts.shtml#family for free download of the Bitstream Vera font family.

Martin
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