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oihenart
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 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:09 am Post subject: NO open in Writer, can we have the choice ? |
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Hello,
OpenOffice opens with a window which offers the choice to open Writer, Calc, ... NeoOffice opens in a Writer window, and if we want to open Calc, we have first to close the Writer window.
Is it possible to have this possibility in NeoOffice also ?
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James3359
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:21 am Post subject: |
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There was a discussion about this on a New Features Program thread. I'm not sure what the conclusion was. Patrick explained in this post why the Start Center has not been implemented.
(You probably know that you don't actually have to close the empty Writer document to open a Calc document - you just need to choose File>New>Spreadsheet.)
There is a freeware utility called NOMu which might be a useable substitute for what you are asking for. |
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amayze
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| James3359 wrote: | | (You probably know that you don't actually have to close the empty Writer document to open a Calc document - you just need to choose File>New>Spreadsheet.) |
You don't even have to do that much.
Simply choose Spreadsheet from the menu the appears when you click on the little arrow next to the left most icon (text document by default) on the bar at the top of each window.
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oihenart
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| James3359 wrote: | | (You probably know that you don't actually have to close the empty Writer document to open a Calc document - you just need to choose File>New>Spreadsheet.) |
| amayze wrote: |
You don't even have to do that much.
Simply choose Spreadsheet from the menu the appears when you click on the little arrow next to the left most icon (text document by default) on the bar at the top of each window.
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Yes, but in both cases, when we launch NeoOffice, it opens in Writer environment and this document stay open when we choose to work with a calc document.
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oihenart
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: |
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I read the Patrick's post :
| Quote: | | - Item 1.12 Start Center - We purposely did not include this new feature as it seems to punish the majority of our users who use Writer as their primary document type to save a few seconds for the minority who use Calc or Impress as their primary document type. |
It would be nice to have this possibility as an option, but it's right that the great majority of us use Writer as primary document.
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pluby
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| oihenart wrote: | | It would be nice to have this possibility as an option, but it's right that the great majority of us use Writer as primary document. |
That is not going to ever happen. The Start Center is really just the old OpenOffice.org empty gray window that users pestered us for three years to get rid of. Seriously, getting rid of that window and only showing its menus was one of the most requested features we ever have so I am pretty confident that there is no reward and only pain if enabled the Start Center and lost the "menus but no window" functionality in NeoOffice.
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sardisson
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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See also this wiki article for additional alternatives.
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pluby
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If a user really wants to emulate OpenOffice.org's Start Center, then look at the following item in the NeoWiki article that Smokey references:
http://neowiki.neooffice.org/index.php/NeoOffice_Launch_Shortcuts#CFBundleExecutable
This executes NeoOffice with the "-nodefault" option which displays NeoOffice's menus and no window. That may seem different than the Start Center, but the menus that you see are the Start Center window's menus. The Start Center window itself is hidden in a 1 x 1 pixel window behind the toolbar.
Essentially, the Start Center is nothing new. Instead, it is the blank startup window that previous versions of OpenOffice.org displayed but we hide to implement the "menus but no window" feature. All that changed in OpenOffice.org 3.0 is they added buttons in the blank window that duplicate the existing menus apparently in order to fill the empty window with something useful.
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yoxi
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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If you start up NeoOffice with the -nodefault option and you prefer keyboard shortcuts to mouse options for choosing what kind of doc to create, just hit cmd-shift-n and you get a useful dialogue for creating new files, using templates etc.
Note that there's a display bug in v3 EA2 patch0 which doesn't show which item in the 2nd column is selected until you move down the list, then the highlight displays.
Update: the display bug I mentioned is an OOo bug, still present in v3.1 builds. I've filed it in issuezilla. |
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Jim
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Pardon me if I fail to see the problem. If you want to open Calc sheets sometimes, and Writer at others, and Impress still less often, then make up default blank templates and put them in the documents section of the Dock. Click the one you want. You can even put them in their own folder, and drop the folder into the Dock as a stack in Leopard.
This one has too many easy user-based solutions to devote any scarce resources to it. JMO
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