I'm a dunce at this stuff, but I'm interested in the potential end-result: ie I love the look of it. Does this mean it is possible to produce a patch for Neo which actually *does* this? If so, how hard would that be? I can't see myself fiddling around with code, never having done it, but I'd love to try out a patch.
I'm a dunce at this stuff, but I'm interested in the potential end-result: ie I love the look of it. Does this mean it is possible to produce a patch for Neo which actually *does* this? If so, how hard would that be? I can't see myself fiddling around with code, never having done it, but I'd love to try out a patch.
Peter
I know I am giving away my love of so-called "eye candy" [why not have an attractive desktop if you're going to look at it a lot? ('')], but I would love to be able to put that light grey together with the icons I can patch in with brett's Neo-Iconer. If I could take the best bits out of these two, I'd love it:
"Anyway, I took dan's lead and went into what seemed like the equivalent library in ver. 0.7,
libvcl641.dylib
and changed the ONLY 3 locations that showed c0 (small c/zero) to e6.
001C54E0
0010E780
001F1190
Of course, this is on the ASCII side of the code which translates into 6536 entry into the Hex side. I used HexEdit instead of ResFork as ResFork is confusing with what I consider a poor searching function.
No dice. Any old timer with v 0.7 wanna confirm this? "
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OK, maybe I wouldn't be cut out for this IT/programmer "Comp Sci "(do they still call it that in college?) stuff.
Tried opening that lib in both ResFork and in HexEdit and here's the weird part. The 1st and 3rd instances of c0 were in the same "byte"? location in each program but the middle instance showed a different byte loc. (i.e 2nd instance still shows as at 001DE780 in HE but shows up as say, at 001CE77C in RF)
Any programmer wish to explain that?
Does it have to do with the whole deal where the lib is read into RAM in a different place in the system each time the program is loaded that dan explained earlier in the thread? But if that is the case does it mean that lib is updated on the fly every time the program is launched? I don't get it since every time I open that lib with a hex editor those c0 instances are at the same locations no matter how many time I launch and close the program (or at least the 1st and 3rd locs. appear to jive regardless of editor used).
And dan if you're still out there, can you walk me thru obtaining the address location again?
I can't seem to follow your Quicktime example to get the results of the first part of your example. For exaample, what do you mena by "... and then hit..."
I can hear the gang now, "Man overboard!" but I just don't want to give up on ver. NOJ 0.7 just yet.
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:33 am Post subject:
fabrizio venerandi wrote:
changing the style (macintosh, os/2, x window) in preferences, the grey changes too in darker.
f.
Haha, that explains why this wouldn't work for me last night - I was using the Mac l&f setting in the view preferences. Changing it to standard sets the background to the "right" 10% grey. Obviously, there must be three or four instances of this setting in the library for each of the four different look and feel options so this is something to bear in mind if an when this hack gets implemented! _________________ PBG4, 1.5GHz, SuperDrive, 1GB RAM, 128MB VRAM, 5400rpm 80GB HD, MacOS X 10.4.5
so. um. really i've been trying to follow this, but i think i missed something. for those who got it to work on 1.1, thing we could get a 'how to'?
is this something we could write an applescript to change?
edit:
though it would be nice to have this all in the 'real' code, that would mean more files for ed and patrick to maintain. (which would be up to them). rather, what if we could do a look and feel program which combined the icon replacement tool being developed and this information? (i may be dreaming here...)
These look wonderful, but I need a patch to integrate. Hex editing the binaries is not a patch. Instead, I need a real code patch for the vcl source code.
These look wonderful, but I need a patch to integrate. Hex editing the binaries is not a patch. Instead, I need a real code patch for the vcl source code.
Patrick
Uh, guess that leaves me out, I'm a dabbler, not a progammer.
I'm a dunce at this stuff, but I'm interested in the potential end-result: ie I love the look of it. Does this mean it is possible to produce a patch for Neo which actually *does* this? If so, how hard would that be? I can't see myself fiddling around with code, never having done it, but I'd love to try out a patch.
Peter
I know I am giving away my love of so-called "eye candy" [why not have an attractive desktop if you're going to look at it a lot? ('')], but I would love to be able to put that light grey together with the icons I can patch in with brett's Neo-Iconer. If I could take the best bits out of these two, I'd love it:
- ignore the Firefox strip at the top [more eye candy] and I know it clashes, but it *is* colourful.
Peter
- and I can!! this is easy, even for a newbie like me: I picked up hexedit, went to the address given and substituted as suggested, changed look & feel to standard, and I can have all sorts of nice light and pastel colours it seems. Light grey was what I was aiming at first, but the blue-grey is nice too. And those nasty old menus popping out with templates are also a nice light colour now. I now have Brett's Neo_iconer icons and a light background, so I feel like I'm using a modern office suite, not one that reminds me of Windows 3.1
Fanatastic, well done Dan and Brett and others! A few weeks ago when I first came across this issue, I thought it would be months and months before I could get to this point. Thanks to everyone.
OK, this is kinda freaky and why I like to remain anonymous. I mention an Aussie guy named PeterMac (McHugh a.k.a. PM) from the old ResEx days and now a Peter from Australia shows up here. Hmmm...
From the "It's a small world afterall Dept."
Anyway Peter, your .jpg/tweaking looks great!
Oh, and one more thing, a fa spotting below (the person who apparently can write the patch Pat says he needs before he'll provide for the masses.)
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')], but I would love to be able to put that light grey together with the icons I can patch in with brett's Neo-Iconer. If I could take the best bits out of these two, I'd love it:
