Although the timestamp is the same, they're actually different files. (Evidence: the combined size of all 12 ttf files from debian.org = 2414024 bytes; the combined filesize from savannah and ftp.gnu.org = 2435692 bytes.) Presumably this is something to do with how they've compiled the fonts from source over at Debian, but I've spent enough time on this that I don't feel up to pursuing it any further.
Phew! Thanks for posting that link, Smokey - it's made my life a lot easier. And even better, NeoOffice/J is up and working. Thanks to all!
Phew! Thanks for posting that link, Smokey - it's made my life a lot easier. And even better, NeoOffice/J is up and working. Thanks to all!
As I see that folder, I wondered. What are .sfd files for? _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
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There you will find several archive files, depending on the format of fonts. A -source- package contains font files with a .sfd (Spline Font Database) suffix. This is PfaEdit's native format. Please use these if you plan to modify the font files. PfaEdit can export these to mostly any existing font file format.
Incidentally I've also found that at least one version of the Galatia SIL Unicode font (http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=SILgrkuni) produced by SIL International also seems to cause odd behaviour in NeoOffice/J; after trying to use it in a document I've had two crashes and one case of formatting going berserk.
There you will find several archive files, depending on the format of fonts. A -source- package contains font files with a .sfd (Spline Font Database) suffix.
Ah, thanks!
BTW, Smokey (despite writing he is too busy) has been adding a few free font sources to the Wiki. _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
"I think it would be a good idea!"
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Postscript to this thread: I've now updated my OS to 10.3.9, and neither version of the freefont package is causing crashes in NeoOffice/J (though the Debian version seems to cause some delays). So I guess Apple had already spotted the problem.
The Galatia SIL font is still causing weird formatting issues, though. I wonder if anyone else experiences problems with this font? Mind you SIL fonts have always been a bit peculiar, including pre-Unicode.
BTW, Smokey (despite writing he is too busy) has been adding a few free font sources to the Wiki.
Well, it was more "I had been too busy to finish writing that 'Setting the Default App' wiki article"
Plus those were easy links. I must have hundreds of multilingual Mac reference pages/font sources bookmarked from the past decade...but those were easy pan-Unicode fonts and Alan Wood is the standard reference on Unicode browser support and fonts.
The thing to be careful about is whether fonts, particularly on a page that lists tons of them, are Unicode fonts; there are still a lot of fonts running around out there that are pre-Unicode, which in most cases meant they put the xx script's characters in the Roman range, so that all the pre-Unicode software could use the fonts. These fonts won't work properly in a Unicode environment like Mac OS X and Neo/J....
Smokey _________________ "[...] whether the duck drinks hot chocolate or coffee is irrelevant." -- ovvldc and sardisson in the NeoWiki
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject:
sardisson wrote:
The thing to be careful about is whether fonts, particularly on a page that lists tons of them, are Unicode fonts; there are still a lot of fonts running around out there that are pre-Unicode, which in most cases meant they put the xx script's characters in the Roman range, so that all the pre-Unicode software could use the fonts. These fonts won't work properly in a Unicode environment like Mac OS X and Neo/J....
Smokey
Ohhhhh I remember well (and shudder at the memory of) pre-Unicode multilingual fonts. But why wouldn't they work correctly? I still have a few installed for legacy purposes (in WinXP as well as OS X ) and they don't cause problems. Obviously they won't identify their characters to (e.g.) the Character Palette correctly, but they shouldn't raise any bugs should they?
Not "problems" in the sense of your Debian versions of the Free fonts, but in terms of not displaying correctly or appearing in PDFs correctly or being "portable" if the document leaves your Mac. The issues will vary depending on the app and the character range (i.e., intended script); in many cases, they might even "appear" correctly.
I just noticed that one of the sites Oscar added had a lot of fonts I recognized as pre-Unicode Mac fonts from the early 90s, before Apple started shipping the Language Kits with the OS (8.5), where the common practice was to put the xx script glyphs where the Roman glyphs belonged so that "everyone" could use the font (never mind the nightmares when someone put stuff on the web using this font!), rather than putting the xx script glyphs where they belonged in font, which only people with localized OS versions or the language kits could use....
Smokey _________________ "[...] whether the duck drinks hot chocolate or coffee is irrelevant." -- ovvldc and sardisson in the NeoWiki
I just noticed that one of the sites Oscar added had a lot of fonts I recognized as pre-Unicode Mac fonts from the early 90s
Shows what I know. Feel free to toss them out . _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
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