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monophonic Agent
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: NeoOffice needs >60 sec to quit + 100% CPU |
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Hi,
When im quitting NO my MacBook it goes wild. CPU load is @ 100% and it takes a minute or two for NO to disappear from the activity monitor... Any advice what to do? I run NO 2 with patch 12 on a 512MB core duo MacBook.
btw: when doing the same on my G4 (2x1,25 & 1700MB) with the same version of NO it quits as fast as other programs.
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Samwise Captain Naiobi
Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Montpellier, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Were you running many applications at the same time ?
Memory could be an issue here. 512 MB is enough to run NeoOffice, but if you are running other applications in the background (especially if they require Rosetta), you could be a bit low on memory. Have you also checked the disk activity when NeoOffice is quitting ? |
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Waldo Oracle
Joined: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 239
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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My guess is that as you quit NeoOffice, you're freeing up a ton of memory, which means that virtualized memory on the hard drive (the OS, other applications, etc.) can now be loaded to actual RAM... which means a lot of churning disk activity...
Just a guess. Bet you anything more memory would fix this.
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monophonic Agent
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I run NO together with Preview, Grapher, Text Edit and iTunes. Nothing else.
... i cant imagine that those applications need so much RAM that it takes a minute. Whatever, i need to get some more RAM asap. |
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Samwise Captain Naiobi
Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Montpellier, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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What about Dashboard ? This "app" is particularly memory-hungry ... |
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LemonAid The Anomaly
Joined: Nov 21, 2005 Posts: 1285 Location: Witless Protection Program
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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and Haxies, and large number of fonts, Virus scanners, and more.
Only 512 KB Memory is probably the biggest problem, but you should check out Troubleshooting_Tips on the Wiki. It's surprising what can cause problems. My running Folding@Home cause major speed problems in earlier versions.
Philip ( A Haxie Made me do it! I swear! ) |
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Samwise Captain Naiobi
Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Montpellier, France
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
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LemonAid wrote: | Only 512 KB Memory is probably the biggest problem |
Indeed |
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monophonic Agent
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: |
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ok, i´ll get some RAM and have a look what happens.
thanks! |
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Samwise Captain Naiobi
Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Montpellier, France
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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More RAM can only be a good thing. Even if it doesn't solve your NeoOffice problem (which does look like it's memory-related though), other apps should see an increase in performance (depending on the application, it could be significant) |
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OPENSTEP The One
Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 4752 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Another way you can check if this is a problem is by using the activity monitor:
- Prior to quitting (or other operation), open Applications > Utilities > Activity Monitor
- Switch to the "System Memory" tab
- Check if you have any "green" in the pie display...that represents free memory. If you have none, your computer could probably benefit from having more RAM
- Switch back to Neo for launching/whatever
- While it's bouncing/quitting, go back to the Activity Montior. Check the numbers next to "Page ins/outs". If these numbers are increasing, then virtual memory is being used (the hard drive is used as more memory)
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LemonAid The Anomaly
Joined: Nov 21, 2005 Posts: 1285 Location: Witless Protection Program
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Ed,
Here are my results (PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM) running
PathFinder, SeaMonkey, Neo, EarthDesk, wClock, Terminal & fah4 (Folding@Home), Activity Monitor (I usually leave this running), Dashboard (inactive), ....
Wired: 113 MB - red
Active: 371 MB - yellow
Inactive: 457 MB - blue
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Used: 942 MB - black
Free: 81 MB - green
VM size: 8.97 GB
So on an average use day, I only have 81 MB free on a 1 GB system.
Having less memory would greatly affect how my system runs.
Philip ( Activity Monitor is your Friend ) |
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