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MrGruff Operator
Joined: Jul 01, 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject: Vulgar terminology - help wanted |
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Folks, and North American folks in particular, I need some advice on slang.
I'm writing a play set in 19th century (1844) Ohio (Warren County) and need my characters to refer to sex in terms which are vulgar but not outrightly offensive. The distinction is between, say, 'shag' or 'bonk' and 'f**k'. The character in question would, in the 21st century, use the two former terms when referring to intercourse, but not the latter.
Suggestions (I may regret that ) or pointers to on-line sources would be very helpful. I have a deadline of 12th November and a lot of pages still to write.
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sardisson Town Crier
Joined: Feb 01, 2004 Posts: 4588
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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What a lovely bunch of corn and soybeans you've chosen as your setting
Sorry, I'm the wrong guy to ask about vulgar language , although otherwise my slang contains a fair helping of Ohioan
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AdamMoore Guest
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Think Midwestern Bible belt. especially in that time. So Lie, Have Relations something like that. |
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ovvldc Captain Naiobi
Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2352 Location: Zürich, CH
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:14 am Post subject: |
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AdamMoore wrote: | Think Midwestern Bible belt. especially in that time. So Lie, Have Relations something like that. |
Perhaps something with the word 'carnal' involved? _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
"I think it would be a good idea!"
- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi |
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps Copulate or Frig? |
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sardisson Town Crier
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Actually, I suppose the old meaning of "know" is probably relevant, too, given the time period.
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MrGruff Operator
Joined: Jul 01, 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:40 am Post subject: Vulgarity |
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Thanks for those helpful suggestions. I think, given the subject matter of the play (The Great Disappointment - which also explains the location) 'lie with', 'have relations' and 'know' are probably the best way to go.
It looks like there's a gap in the market for a Thesaurus and Dictionary of Nineteenth Century Mild Profanity if anyone is looking for a project (small gap, small market).
Thanks again,
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yoxi Cipher
Joined: Sep 07, 2004 Posts: 1799 Location: Dawlish, Devon
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:51 am Post subject: |
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If you're looking for mild profanity rather than euphemism, then maybe 'had' is a better word, as though it's not overt, it certainly isn't polite either in the same way that the other terms are.
Or there's the bestial approach, where you use a word like 'tupping' which actually applies to sheep, but everyone knows what you mean (and it's more old-fashioned/bucolic too, but might not work in arable country!)
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MrGruff Operator
Joined: Jul 01, 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:11 am Post subject: meanwhile in Scotland |
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I could see 'tupping' being used in a derogatory way to refer to a third (and fourth) party's activites.
While I was scouring my vocabulary I also came upon 'towsing' a Scottish dialect word from a slightly earlier period which crops up in Robert Burns' work:
I ance was tied up like a stirk,
For civilly swearing and quaffin;
I ance was abus’d i’ the kirk,
For towsing a lass i’ my daffin.
[daffin = flirting]
The word has connotations of ruffling/rumpling.
Still, with less than a week to go I'm going to have to focus on the rest of the play.
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