Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: Apple & non-Cocoa Java support?
I may have missed it, but I didn't see discussion about the note at the top of this page, which reads:
Quote:
Important: Features added to Cocoa in Mac OS X versions later than 10.4 will not be added to the Cocoa-Java programming interface. Therefore, you should develop Cocoa applications using Objective-C to take advantage of existing and upcoming Cocoa features
What is this saying exactly, and will it affect Neo/J? I thought that Neo/J's Java carbon stuff needed to be rewritten as Java Cocoa stuff in the new versions of Java for future OS X Java versions > 1.3. But this note suggests that features may be missing anyway w/o Objective-C.
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject:
CocoaJava is (well, was) a second language that could be used to interface with the Cocoa frameworks. Instead of Objective-C, it could be used with Java to write Cocoa applications using com.apple.* packages. Of course, this resulted in Java that ran only on OS X machines. CocoaJava never became really popular and suffered from a number of bugs since 10.3 even.
The Java that's used within NeoJ is "pure" Java, AWT and Java 2D at present, and perhaps some Swing in the future. Anything that's using OS X specific frameworks is written in either C++ or Obj-C. Since the majority of the application is already C++ based, we just call the frameworks directly. There's no need for us to add an extra layer with the CocoaJava language bridge and never will be.
So the impact is none since we never did nor ever planned on using it.
We're also not planning on using Cocoa, but that's another story too. Cocoa isn't suited for porting procedural widget libraries
We're also not planning on using Cocoa, but that's another story too. Cocoa isn't suited for porting procedural widget libraries
Waitaminute. I thought you had no choice but to go Cocoa with Java 1.4.. _________________ "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
"I think it would be a good idea!"
- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
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